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celticdog
The founder of Jehovah's witnesses, Russell and the second leader Rutherford believed that god ruled from the Pleiades cluster. Russell got that idea from the great pyramid and said it was the god stone and it pointed to the Pleiades. Then Eric von Daniken ancient astronaut theory(chariots of the gods). The gods were space men from Pleiades. The bible contains references to the Pleiades and one indirect one about the messiah coming holding seven stars. It seems that there is a lot of cultures that have a fascination with this star cluster. Either there is something to this or just mans love for the Pleiades which helped with the seasons for farming...... Mythology and folklore of the Pleiades.
Misterlondon
The level of ignorance on this site is sometimes astounding... why does everything in the universe Have to be based on earths model? Is it not possible something, somewhere is different or beyond our current understanding Of life and the universe?
Oannes
reply to post by tanka418
I believe it was called Avyone. Based on what I have read it no longer exists due to warfare. The main founding races were the Narshringa-Lion People (who created humans) and the Reptiles (who created the Carians).
tanka418
reply to post by 3n19m470
I've actually been through all of those possibilities and more. My "Imagination" is with the greatest probability, in my estimation.
The "stories" include physical "Nordic" entities, so that kind of begins to limit the class of star they are "likely" from.
OrionHunterX
Misterlondon
The level of ignorance on this site is sometimes astounding... why does everything in the universe Have to be based on earths model? Is it not possible something, somewhere is different or beyond our current understanding Of life and the universe?
Spot on! Now why would scientists and astronomers break their backs and eyeballs looking for planets in the so called 'Goldilocks' zone? Alien life could have evolved in conditions far removed from that on Earth.
Haven't we discovered extremophiles, organisms that thrive in physically or geochemically extreme conditions that are detrimental to most life on Earth. [/quote[
Yes. And even extremophiles are still subject to being on a planet in a habitable zone. Our Earth. Even at the extreme edge of the habitable zone extremophiles could still exist. And in environments like the oceans of Europa or on Enceladus, they could exist.
But the they still would require one of the things you outline below.
[quote[No oxygen, no water, no sunlight, extreme heat and cold - and they still thrive.
Why do we always use Earth's template for the trillions upon trillions of star systems out there?
We need to start thinking out of the box to look for alien life.
Energy is not something that interacts with itself like matter does. It can not form bonds, it can not form anything, by its nature it is formless.
JadeStar
Perhaps it's just me but I've always found this idea that these "enlightened" and "spiritual" human-like aliens would resemble something out of Hitler's and every neo-Nazi's wet dream somewhat suspect, if not disturbing. It sounds way too much like some sort of propaganda.
Not to mention they always seem to be connected with places pretty hostile to human life (ie: Arcturus, Sirius, the stars of the Pleiades, etc).
It's like a bad joke that a good amount of people with less than a high school understanding of astronomy and biology readily buy into (without a shred of evidence) for whatever dubious reason.
Ross 54
There are at least three Sun-like stars in the immediate vicinity of the Pleiades star cluster. I suppose it could be that some being from one of these stars could use it as a familiar landmark, saying 'I'm from the Pleiades' rather than try to explain about actually being from an obscure, largely unknown star very near it. This isn't uncommon in human parlance, where someone may say they're from the nearest incorporated town, even though they live outside the city limits.
The three stars in question are HD 282943, BD +23493, and HD 283271. Interestingly, the latter is only about 16 light years away. Distances to the other two have proved elusive, so far. All are of G type; very similar to our Sun. Their respective coordinates are:
Right Ascension 3 hours, 47 minutes, 44.12 seconds; Declination +26 degrees, 36 minutes, 17.4 seconds.
R.A. 3 hrs., 42 min., 55.86 sec; Decl. +23 degr., 52 min., 34.82 sec.
R.A. 3 h. 59 m. 21.12 s. Decl. +24 d. 22 m. 48.4 s.
That of the Pleiades cluster itself, approximately: R.A. 3h 47 m 24s, Decl. 24 d. 7 m.edit on 6-11-2013 by Ross 54 because: added information
TamtammyMacx
Correct. Using our Earth and solar system as a model for every other developing solar sytem, planet or species should be cautioned. Aliens may have just colonized in a system and not biologically evolved there.
Think at what some of the past presidents have said.
I always thought it was interesting that President Bush Sr. used to say 1000 points of light all of the time. Was that a clue to the Pleiadian star cluster?
Reagan at the UN.
There might be something out there?