Thread for Abductees of ATS regarding the "Breeding Program" having fetuses' taken?

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posted on Nov, 4 2013 @ 11:57 PM
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I was wondering if there were any ATS members here female or male, doesn't matter, willing to talk about their abductions regarding implantation/fetus retrieval by Aliens. Would be very interesting to get further insight from those going through or having gone through this experience and what you believe/feel.

Excerpt from a book by David Jacobs - "The Threat" pg. 42


As I was listening to Lydia, I remembered
a postmenopausal abductee who had told me
about feeling pregnant and f
eeling something "kicking" in
her lower abdomen. At the
time I did not know how to inte
rpret the report. Now I knew.
I realized that it was
possible that the aliens are making women carry
babies even if the woman does not have
a uterus. Instead of implanting the embryo in
a uterus, the aliens could be inserting an
extrauterine gestational unit—a sac capable
of incubating a fetus without having to be
attached to the uterine lining.
The aliens place
the unit in an area
near the uterus, or
perhaps even in the space that the womb orig
inally occupied, or be
hind the bladder, or
near an ovary.




posted on Nov, 5 2013 @ 12:15 AM
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While I havent personally had an experience I know some people who have, A woman was pregnant and then she wasnt. A few months later she started having nightmares about little men in her room and under hypnosis she recalled her and her husbands abduction. I wrote a thread on it when I found out.

Family friend abducted by aliens has baby taken

Before I heard that story I was on the fence but now knowing them and the fact that other than a few people, no one knows (ie they didnt try to profit and got divorced due to it) I think it may be a real phenomena.

A bit scary really



posted on Nov, 5 2013 @ 12:46 AM
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Hey, thanks for your reply and thread link. I'll have a look, running around and thought of this thread.

You're right, it is really scary. One wonders what the " Real Agenda " is?



posted on Nov, 5 2013 @ 01:32 AM
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Do you two seriously believe human beings are abducted by aliens?? WHY?! Why in the hell would an alien civilization, more than likely, far more advanced than us ever want to abduct or know anything at all whatsoever about us?? I am very curious as to why seemingly sane people actually buy into this kinda crap.

No offense ofcourse


Misanthrope



posted on Nov, 5 2013 @ 01:46 AM
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Well I am sane and sensible-and an abductee.Why would they? Good question,and one I also would love the answer to,believe me.



posted on Nov, 5 2013 @ 01:50 AM
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we could be a resource to them that they exploit in some way.
For example, they may attach a consciousness to us as the host.
This could explain the eradict moods and actions of the human race.



posted on Nov, 5 2013 @ 01:54 AM
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Abductee....You say that in such a passing manner. I would love to hear your story if you would like to share it? As I said I want to know why people believe in this sort of thing. I am 100% skeptical of anyone and everyone who claims to have had contact with any alien beings. We are not special and have absolutely nothing to offer an advanced civilization aside from......say......slave labor I suppose. I am curious as to what goes through folks minds to make them believe in any sort of contact aside from a good ufo wreck though lol.




posted on Nov, 5 2013 @ 01:56 AM
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Misanthropicwulf
Do you two seriously believe human beings are abducted by aliens?? WHY?! Why in the hell would an alien civilization, more than likely, far more advanced than us ever want to abduct or know anything at all whatsoever about us?? I am very curious as to why seemingly sane people actually buy into this kinda crap.

No offense ofcourse


Misanthrope


One obvious answer is that these beings are not Gods.. For all that technology they still can only just play doctor when it comes to manipulating biological entities, (us).

Also, to understand our value to these abductors, you would have to open up that brain a bit more.. You seem to have a very narrow view of reality, no offense..
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posted on Nov, 5 2013 @ 01:59 AM
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So all these abductees are all lying, right?
Those ones that were confirmed pregnant by their doctor, then all of a sudden no longer have a fetus, their doctor is in on the lie too?
People with marks, scars etc, they all did those themselves as well, right?

Your reply is trolling at its best. DONT FEED THE TROLLS!!!



posted on Nov, 5 2013 @ 02:03 AM
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Ok....Why on earth would they want anything at all to do with us though?? We lead mundane lives til the day we meet the earth and are susceptible to sickness and death. Boring, dull creatures and insanely miniscule in the infinite vacuum of eternal space.......and they choose us??? I'm sorry but.....



posted on Nov, 5 2013 @ 02:09 AM
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Actually it's called fetal resorbtion and is a fairly common happening within the first 3 months. Look it up.



posted on Nov, 5 2013 @ 02:11 AM
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Ok Homer. Sorry but yes. I believe all of anything they have to say is a lie. No one has any proof at all to back up any claims of contact. Maybe one day I will be abducted and I will secretly record the abduction and secretly "leak" the info and upload the video to almighty youtube lol. You're funny buddy boy. Doctors confirming a pregnancy is proof of.....pregnancy. I know alot of women who had kids.....that does not make them abductees....unless they were victims of rape I guess.



posted on Nov, 5 2013 @ 02:23 AM
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I'm not so quick to dismiss the abduction accounts as just lies... Though I'm just as hesitant to call it extra terrestrials.

At the very least the broad range of accounts and mythology that has sprung up around the phenomenon is atleast an interesting window into human psychology.

At its worst it could be something sinister, point being it at least merits study.



posted on Nov, 5 2013 @ 02:30 AM
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gnosticagnostic
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Actually it's called fetal resorbtion and is a fairly common happening within the first 3 months. Look it up.

This is very true, and does happen surprisingly often. I've personally known 3 women who'd experienced this, 2 of them had it happen while pregnant with twins. One twin dies, the other does not. The dead twin is reabsorbed into the body while the other continues to grow.

As to the "kicking" sensation, it's usually called gas, baby. It sounds like the lamest excuse on the planet, but it's absolutely not, just an overlooked explanation. Believe me, I've had 2 kids, and I know full well what a kick feels like. I also know extremely well that if I eat certain foods, I will have a bit of excess gas bubbling along. Ever had the "popping" gas moving through? Same idea, just with more sudden and . . . solid movement of the gas, for the lack of a better way of putting it. When it does so just right, it feels just like a deep internal kick. The feeling is uncanny.
What also will do it, as I found out through lousy diet, is low potassium. Your muscles will spasm just so, in rhythmic succession, and voila, hot-footing it for pregnancy tests you go (or at least I did) Why this doesn't cause pain is not something I understand, but it's very valid & a side-effect of low nutrient levels, namely potassium.

Unless, you know, I've been abducted a gazillion times and had a ton of fetuses taken or implanted or whatever.



EDIT: And just to make sure no one thinks I'm being a dillhole, I'm not necessarily discrediting anyone's claims. I'm sure there are some cases that are difficult or impossible to explain rationally. I do want to say that I believe a lot of people claiming alien baby abduction probably reabsorbed the fetus, or like me, had their body psyche them out.
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posted on Nov, 5 2013 @ 02:39 AM
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Hi wulf,If I say it in what seems a casual way,it is because I have since childhood been used to strange+inexplicable events in my life,abduction is the one+only thing I have ever come across that cohesively explains everything from the past,right up to the present day.I have woken up with marks+injuries that correspond directly with strange dreams,including bleeding for nine days.I have had ufo sightings here,my whole family has-and even what seemed like a kind of interaction,witnessed by my oldest daughter.Very strange thngs happening all my life,since the age of 3-an experience so indelibly imprinted on my mind.I can directly pinpoint the day I remember first being damaged,though there may have been interference before,my memory starts at age 3.
Here is a thread re the mark+injury aspect:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

My life has been a battle,wulf,I do not take this lightly,but also I am not going to let it consume my life.To me it is a mystery,I have read many theories as to Why,but at the end of the day,without proof,they are just theories.The garden still needs watering,the kids,cats+dogs still needs feeding,etc.So yeah I have had much fear in my childhood and younger years,I have outgrown that by now,now I just get on with my practical everyday life as best I can.But I fully understand how hard it is for some one who has not had a life filled with this type of thing to believe it could be factual,it is hard even for those like me,who have.My thread is just to show you one of the reasons I don't have the luxury of doubting the abduction phenom.The other thread is a general weird-life thread,to add,so you can see I am not being flippant about the abduction matter,just used to effed-upness:-)

I know the human race has been conditioned to think they are mothing,quite worthless-but maybe this is not so.Look at bees-while we are more advanced,we want their honey,because it is wholesome.We can make money by selling it too.I am guessing a species far superior to us,may see a practical use for us also? And/or something connected to the soul,is my feeling,some etheric energy source we emit? Not so well-versed in this area,just saying that is the part of me personally that suffered most,physical pain+injuries are nothing to me,compared to the damage I suffered emotionally,spiritually,psychologically.But there too,healing can take place.But first you have to have an idea what all issues you have to heal From.



posted on Nov, 5 2013 @ 02:55 AM
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I have had one "abduction" experience...

I triggered it myself.

I was experimenting with binaural beats, in the 7hz range.

Using a smart phone and head phones trying to lucid dream, I caused a full blown abduction "feeling" and conscious thoughts of my own ended it instantly.

I'm not trying to dismiss your experience, just suggest their may be some deeper brain function at play.

As for the "spiritual" aspects you suggest I recommend looking into some of the guts threads on this topic.

Limiting the potential cause to little green men is just as absurd as dismissing the experience out of hand as lie.

Where the truth is not enough serious research has been done to justify either conclusions .

Eta: in your exp, was the sensation of intense paralyzingly vibration present? As if something was vibrating through your very core?
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posted on Nov, 5 2013 @ 03:10 AM
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Hi benrl,I have listened to binaurals,but no experiences from it.That "vibration" thing I have felt during meditation(without binaurals) it felt like every atom was a V8 engine-sort of like you're a huge engine or reactor?
felt nice,actually,but no weird ' wacky experiences to accompany it.I don't meditate the conventional way anymore,I found it is not for me-i find it puts pressure on me to relax+that has the opposite effect,defeats the purpose,really.My meditation that works is quiet communion with nature,and lucky for me I live out in nature.

Edit to add:Thanks for the reference to The Gut's threads,yes I will read them when I have the chance,I know he makes excellent threads.
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posted on Nov, 5 2013 @ 03:38 AM
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benrl
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I have had one "abduction" experience...

I triggered it myself.

I was experimenting with binaural beats, in the 7hz range.

Using a smart phone and head phones trying to lucid dream, I caused a full blown abduction "feeling" and conscious thoughts of my own ended it instantly.

I'm not trying to dismiss your experience, just suggest their may be some deeper brain function at play.


Experimenting on your mind or brain is not a good way to understand these things. Spirits or aliens can enter into these experiments and influence the results.

Have you heard of The Spirit Molecule?


Brain researchers may object to the suggestion that D_M_T affects the brain's ability to receive information rather than generate those perceptions themselves. They also may dismiss the proposal that D. M. T. can allow our brains to perceive dark matter or parallel universes, realms of existence inhabited by conscious entities.


www.rickstrassman.com...

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posted on Nov, 5 2013 @ 03:41 AM
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I used t work for an ob/gyn it's really quite common back in the day they were sometimes called a variety of other things as well



posted on Nov, 5 2013 @ 03:45 AM
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I am well versed in shamanic experience, as well as the pharmacology behind it.

It's why I suggested aliens is an absurd an answer as any other, my own experiences leaning toward a more internal answer as it where.





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