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reply to post by crowdedskies
But you're right, a lot of these guys in top business positions and politicians couldn't integrate a polynomial to save their lives, but they clearly have an intelligence that's very effective, and its largely based in that second, "magical" realm. They get markets, they get public opinion. They get the link between their actions, queries, and statements, and the world they will observe tomorrow. They get the link between their inner state, and their outer actions/world they create. They cultivate certain inner states. (The business success literature I've read heavily emphasizes the importance of cultivating an incredibly positive attitude, for instance)
Anyway, my original question was whether science is big enough to be the new magic. I believe it is. I've played around with the idea at a more formal level, and what I've found is that you can tweak the scientific method to support magick. While the original method supposes an observer/phenomenon duality, you just need to suppose a third entity, which I call the Oracle, which can bind the thing observed to the observer, so that the two are correlated. Something like this is namelessly assumed in quantum mechanics. The reality isn't the probability wave or its collapse by observations, the reality is both, and the observer. This reality is defined by the Oracle. A simpler example might be markets. If seeking to find out how much your commodity is worth lowers its price, you can't know what it might of been worth if you didn't ask around. But the Oracle knew, and the oracle knew the relationship between your asking around and devaluation before it started. By definition we can't totally know they mind of the oracle, because even what we know shapes reality, and the Oracle defines how that process takes place. But by carefully observing, we can partially know the mind of the Oracle, so that our inner state/thoughts/actions can produce good things for us in the world.
reply to post by Wandering Scribe
I think it is also possible that the robe is simply a relic of what people would normally wear at that time? Would I be wrong in assuming that? As far as the athame, that of course would be a part of the ritual no matter what time period. Those first two questions are to Wandering Scribe.
reply to post by crowdedskies
So, there is a historical, spiritual, philosophic, and symbolic association for the robe. Doesn't mean it has to be there though. Like so much else in magick, the exterior is purely superficial, a series of mnemonic devices meant to help the practitioner ground themselves and connect to their subconscious / archetypal nature, where the real magick is supposed to happen.
~ Wandering Scribe
One could say that all the hoopla and ritual around magic isn't very much different than organized religion. The Pope still wears robes and his hat, they still use incense at Catholic mass.
I think it has something to do with "getting in the mood".