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Lethal weapon: This is the gun that is killing America

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posted on Nov, 5 2013 @ 03:05 PM
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kingofyo1
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Well, you gotta remember Genocide has never been a popular idea amongst society


I dont want to take the thread off-topic but just about everything nazi germany did back then, we did in iraq, afghanistan, libya, syria, somalia, serbia, etc. I guess DHS has not gotten to the point of detaining tea party folks yet, but how long before that happens? Substitute jews for tea party followers and same genocide.

And what about the 9-11 false flag that killed 3000 people in just one day? Maybe it could be considered genocide by some/many.

National Socialism is the opposite of what we have today, which is internatonal capitalism, running unbelievable trade deficits with just about every asian nation for 20 years and counting. What would be wrong with some real nationalism for a change such as putting tariffs on imports to encourage domestic job growth? Got to get rid of the internationalists to see real hope and change. The bilderbergers push new world order.




posted on Nov, 5 2013 @ 03:13 PM
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I see your point entirely, but yeah we should stop the OT chat lol, im sure its getting annoying for anyone else trying to read about the bARbie-15 that everyone wants to ban for no real reason



posted on Nov, 5 2013 @ 03:35 PM
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kingofyo1
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I see your point entirely, but yeah we should stop the OT chat lol, im sure its getting annoying for anyone else trying to read about the bARbie-15 that everyone wants to ban for no real reason


People have been brainwashed to think that the AR-15 and M-16 are exactly the same thing, when obviously they are not. The first is actually classified as a sporting rifle, while the second is classified as an assault rifle.

Looking at any gun shop catalogue will prove this 100% correct.

The lawmakers are shooting themselves in the foot by their gross ignorance of things they should fully comprehend before attempting to have opinions about, much less try to regulate.
edit on 5/11/13 by EarthCitizen07 because: change emphasis



posted on Nov, 5 2013 @ 03:39 PM
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Preachin' to the choir here bud... Since I first learned the terms, and discovered the agendas of the press and political members to suppress these rifles, I've been rambling to anyone who'd listen about why the guns should be allowed... Its been approximately 8 years for me



posted on Nov, 5 2013 @ 04:04 PM
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EarthCitizen07

NavyDoc

Here's the problem with arguing with someone like Pejeu. He doesn't care about individual freedom. He has said before that he is a statist who thinks that people are too stupid to make their own decisions, must be ruled by the elite, and should be put in camps if it is decided it is "for their own good." His words, not mine.

Given that he believes like this, of course he wants citizens to be disarmed because disarmed people are a heck of a lot easier to put into camps than armed citizens.


In a way its hillarious arguing with people who dont know what they are talking about, but then when the laughter subsides you realise these people are dead serious in their quest to disarm everyone to the maximum extent possible, and it becomes scary.


I have to agree with you on that.



posted on Nov, 5 2013 @ 07:25 PM
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see here: en.wikipedia.org...:Ushomicidesbyweapon.svg

the "other" would include AR-15s

edit on 5-11-2013 by Teabags because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 5 2013 @ 07:30 PM
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along with... ak, sks, all long rifles, accidental hunting accidents caused by Dick Cheny, shotguns, and many other types of guns.. Not just AR-15s



posted on Nov, 5 2013 @ 08:08 PM
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First, having been in the Marines during the switch from the M-14, 7.62mm/.30 caliber, and the M-16, 5.56mm/.22cal, I will say that the former is my rifle, the latter is a toy. I preferred scaring the enemy to the ground at 5 or 6 hundred yards, to being a football field length from the enemy.
Second, the M-14 could be modified with a selector dial, for semi and full auto. Only they found out, an M-14 on full auto would (a) climb like a scared monkey, in other words you aim at the enemy and finish shooting at clouds, and (b) on average all twenty rounds would fire before the shooter took his finger off the the trigger (800 rounds per minute, divide by 60 and in a second, it fires 13 rounds.) Mind you, the finger is delayed, by the death grip the shooter has on the weapon, trying to control it.
Last, the M-14 is classified as a "battle rifle," and superior in every way as a military weapon to the M-16. The M-16 has a single claim to fame, it is made of plastic and light weigh. Oh, yes twenty round magazines, full loaded, are lighter. The M-16 tries to make up for it's short comings, with thirty round magazines.
For heavy fire power in a mobile mode, I think the M-60 is best. Same size rounds, but belt fed. Hang an assault pack on either side, sling the walking sling, and lean forward.



posted on Nov, 5 2013 @ 09:16 PM
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Guns kill people and pencils make Americans spell bad engrish




posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 12:01 AM
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Brandyjack
First, having been in the Marines during the switch from the M-14, 7.62mm/.30 caliber, and the M-16, 5.56mm/.22cal, I will say that the former is my rifle, the latter is a toy. I preferred scaring the enemy to the ground at 5 or 6 hundred yards, to being a football field length from the enemy.
Second, the M-14 could be modified with a selector dial, for semi and full auto. Only they found out, an M-14 on full auto would (a) climb like a scared monkey, in other words you aim at the enemy and finish shooting at clouds, and (b) on average all twenty rounds would fire before the shooter took his finger off the the trigger (800 rounds per minute, divide by 60 and in a second, it fires 13 rounds.) Mind you, the finger is delayed, by the death grip the shooter has on the weapon, trying to control it.
Last, the M-14 is classified as a "battle rifle," and superior in every way as a military weapon to the M-16. The M-16 has a single claim to fame, it is made of plastic and light weigh. Oh, yes twenty round magazines, full loaded, are lighter. The M-16 tries to make up for it's short comings, with thirty round magazines.
For heavy fire power in a mobile mode, I think the M-60 is best. Same size rounds, but belt fed. Hang an assault pack on either side, sling the walking sling, and lean forward.


I like the way you think. I think TPTB figured out they were creating some very deadly citizens and that led to the retirement of the M-14 ... arguably the best all around battle rifle ever developed. Your take on the M-60 is also spot on. Amazing how the weapon becomes virtually weightless when operated as described.

For some reason I fell in love with the 30.06 and I know all the reasons as to why the .308 is better. Prolly something to do with felt recoil ... I don't know. I swapped out my Glock 17 for a 23, more for the recoil than the compact size. I had a tendency to too lightly grip the pistol and the slide would catch the spent casing. No problems with that on the .40 compared to 9mm.

Given a choice of only one weapon, I'd still go with the AR. TCO, weight, availability of ammo, mods, general flexibilities, accuracy, ease of use, maintenance ... yeah ... if I could only have one, it would be an AR ... suppressed in .308 with a night vision optic if you please.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 01:51 AM
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AliceBleachWhite
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I thought military weapons had Full-Auto on the selector?



The mass media is using the term "assault rifle" as a tool to try and swing the peoples opinions to dsilike this semi automatic rifle.

Military assault rifles especially this type have a selector switch that can change the rate of fire from semi auto to full auto.

These types of civilian arms do not have that capability.

We the people just need to not buy into the hype and realize that the mass media is trying to use these words as a tool to disarm the people. If we are disbarred the use of arms we will be relieved of any and all freedoms that we do still have...



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 03:57 AM
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I have owned an ar15 before and I never had the thought of using this weapon against anyone , honestly im sick of weapons being blamed for idiots actions ,you can easily obtain data on the web on better weapons of destruction ,the reality is if you wanna blame the world and kill innocents you don't need a gun I find this is just an excuse to disarm



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 04:41 AM
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SubTruth
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PTB know that inside the US there is no way to get rid of the guns unless something of an epic nature happens. People would have to be starving.



This progressive propaganda is for the rest of the world. They want to keep you in line using fear. This is the cold hard truth and if you buy into this crap guess what PTB have your mind. America is the last hold out in the world and thankfully we have a strong constitution and conservative minded people in mass still.




And yes eventually even the US will fail to the progressive filth scum bags. And when they do kiss you freedom of speech goodbye rest of the world.
edit on 5-11-2013 by SubTruth because: (no reason given)



This....


Is why the rest of the civilized world thinks that there's something deeply wrong with your "last holdout in the world" lol...

Don't get me worong - I know many americans where I live. Funny thing is, once they actually spend time in other countries as these do they start to acknowledge how screwed up american conservatism has become. Really, wake up, go travel to other countries, see how people can live without harnessing killing machines at home, how they don't need to build up a constant state of fear etc. You conservative gun toters guys are loons, truly so.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 04:47 AM
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animalfarm
This....
Is why the rest of the civilized world thinks that there's something deeply wrong with your "last holdout in the world" lol...

Don't get me worong - I know many americans where I live. Funny thing is, once they actually spend time in other countries as these do they start to acknowledge how screwed up american conservatism has become. Really, wake up, go travel to other countries, see how people can live without harnessing killing machines at home, how they don't need to build up a constant state of fear etc. You conservative gun toters guys are loons, truly so.

They'll revert as soon as they cross back over the border. I do it every time. There is a dynamic in the US you don't find in other countries. If you don't carry in the US ... you are asking to become a victim. And, I too, have no problem in a gun-free country overseas.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 04:52 AM
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Some of us like to live with a nice amount of self reliance. We don't need big brother to take care of everything for us. Don't want no police around hassling us, so we need to protect our own. We can put down all the dangerous wild animals that roam into our town ourselves, including those of the human variety. Only need the cops to come clean up the mess if it's a human animal. RCMP can come to clean up when needed. The other animals can be buried in the woods.

You stay in your little utopia, I'll stay in mine. And don't come poking around if society collapses, you aren't gonna come freeload off all our crops and livestock



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 06:04 AM
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people turn into something else when armed. in their "last stronghold" ... hunting "human animals".

wow



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 06:08 AM
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Pejeu

Doc Gator
That is the definition of an assault rifle. If it isn't capable of full auto or burst fire, it is not an assault rifle. It's that simple.

You can call a horse an automobile because they both carry goods and people over distances, but a horse is clearly not an automobile no matter how many times someone says it is.


O'Reilly?

So the M1 Garand isn't an assault rifle?

Laughing my ass off right now.


No. The M1 Garand is NOT an assault rifle. It is a main battle rifle.

Laugh all you want. Words have meanings.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 06:23 AM
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It's called defense. Someone thinking they can help their selves to the fruits of our labour, or bring harm to people in our community are no better than some wolves or coyotes trying to get into the livestock. People want to act like animals, they will be treated as such. Why do you think it doesn't happen here? We won't allow it to happen.

We won't give up our guns anymore than we would let someone steal any of the tools we rely on to live.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 06:35 AM
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TKDRL
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It's called defense. Someone thinking they can help their selves to the fruits of our labour, or bring harm to people in our community are no better than some wolves or coyotes trying to get into the livestock. People want to act like animals, they will be treated as such. Why do you think it doesn't happen here? We won't allow it to happen.

We won't give up our guns anymore than we would let someone steal any of the tools we rely on to live.


Unless his/her comment was tongue-in-cheek, you're responding to someone who'll put their hand out and take anything. Some people have no idea the meaning of independence. Responding to them is like talking to an empty room.

ETA: In my post above this one, I should've said an AR in 5.56 would be just fine too.
edit on 6112013 by Snarl because: ETA



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 07:45 AM
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A whole lot more are killed in this country from drunk drivers and other crime. Guns are not the problem and law abiding citizens should be able to own any gun they want in any amount that they want. The 2nd Amendment exist mainly to protect our unalienable right to protect our self from tyranny. Those who would try taking guns from Americans are nothing but Marxist traitors and are our mortal enemy.



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