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EarthCitizen07
reply to post by ChuckNasty
The issue is kits converting semi to auto guns. Who cares about any other features?
EarthCitizen07
reply to post by NavyDoc
Really? Then why are there are soooo many bump-fire stocks available?
The other way of accomplishing this would be to remove the semi-auto sear and install an automatic sear instead, but the government holds them in their possession and you need a class 3 license to get approved.
EarthCitizen07
reply to post by ChuckNasty
The issue is kits converting semi to auto guns. Who cares about any other features?
EarthCitizen07
It doesn't really make sense that civilians should have the same weapons as the military does. The military are professionals and the militias are civilian armed groups, often ex-military people that get together to protect both from domestic tyranny and as a last line of defence from foreign invasion.
At least that is the way I see it.
EarthCitizen07
reply to post by NavyDoc
It doesn't really make sense that civilians should have the same weapons as the military does. The military are professionals and the militias are civilian armed groups, often ex-military people that get together to protect both from domestic tyranny and as a last line of defence from foreign invasion.
At least that is the way I see it.
EarthCitizen07
reply to post by NavyDoc
It doesn't really make sense that civilians should have the same weapons as the military does. The military are professionals and the militias are civilian armed groups, often ex-military people that get together to protect both from domestic tyranny and as a last line of defence from foreign invasion.
At least that is the way I see it.
Galvatron
reply to post by mikegrouchy
The 2nd amendment doesn't include ordnance, only arms (man portable personal weapons). Ordnance was recognized then as it is now as being a different category of weapon.
mikegrouchy
Galvatron
reply to post by mikegrouchy
The 2nd amendment doesn't include ordnance, only arms (man portable personal weapons). Ordnance was recognized then as it is now as being a different category of weapon.
Yes, please continue being the "rational" one
as someone should do it. Even when the gun
grabbers have shown them selves to anathema
to reason, healthy compromise, or truth.
I will continue to push for compensation
commensurate with the level of infringement
heaped on us for decades.
I'll take two.
Mike
NavyDoc
EarthCitizen07
reply to post by NavyDoc
It doesn't really make sense that civilians should have the same weapons as the military does. The military are professionals and the militias are civilian armed groups, often ex-military people that get together to protect both from domestic tyranny and as a last line of defence from foreign invasion.
At least that is the way I see it.
The intent of the writers of the second amendment and the militia act was to make certain that the government did not have a monopoly on the means of force and that the citizenry could, if necessary, overthrow a tyrannical government. If you consider that the founders just got done fighting a revolution against their own government, you can see the logic of their position.
As for today, I think that the same principles hold true--that the state should not hold a monopoly on the means of defense or coercion. A police officer should be no better armed than the citizens he is policing.edit on 6-11-2013 by NavyDoc because: (no reason given)
EarthCitizen07
I can see your frustration with all these gun laws being wholly excessive and repetitive in nature but why have professional military and professional police and professional firefighters and professional anything if civilians can do the job tax free and better?
EarthCitizen07
Maybe we should voluntary everything then. Heck maybe even volunteer schools with volunteer teachers too.
The ordinance was also significant for establishing a mechanism for funding public education. Section 16 in each township was reserved for the maintenance of public schools. Many schools today are still located in section sixteen of their respective townships[citation needed], although a great many of the school sections were sold to raise money for public education. In later States, section 36 of each township was also designated as a "school section".
wikipedia / Land Ordinance of 1785
EarthCitizen07
reply to post by NavyDoc
It doesn't really make sense that civilians should have the same weapons as the military does. The military are professionals and the militias are civilian armed groups, often ex-military people that get together to protect both from domestic tyranny and as a last line of defence from foreign invasion.
At least that is the way I see it.
EarthCitizen07
NavyDoc
EarthCitizen07
reply to post by NavyDoc
It doesn't really make sense that civilians should have the same weapons as the military does. The military are professionals and the militias are civilian armed groups, often ex-military people that get together to protect both from domestic tyranny and as a last line of defence from foreign invasion.
At least that is the way I see it.
The intent of the writers of the second amendment and the militia act was to make certain that the government did not have a monopoly on the means of force and that the citizenry could, if necessary, overthrow a tyrannical government. If you consider that the founders just got done fighting a revolution against their own government, you can see the logic of their position.
As for today, I think that the same principles hold true--that the state should not hold a monopoly on the means of defense or coercion. A police officer should be no better armed than the citizens he is policing.edit on 6-11-2013 by NavyDoc because: (no reason given)
They weren't fighting their own government, they were fighting off the british imperialists, the british monarchy to be exact. The states were colonies of great britain back then until they gained independance from winning the war.
Further I would not want my government to have a monopoly of power. Yes the citizens should be armed. Its how far they should be armed and the interpretation of the second amendment I have issue with.