Typically, the rant section reflects the attitude of the person writing the thread. Not today. Today, I will give you a chance to rant. Here is the
The idea of ATS is to deny the ignorance of those who conspire against truth. For instance, if a politician tells a load of lies to get elected, then
does the opposite, ATS will be there to point out the hypocrisy. There is a problem with this. People ignore truth. This is basically how ignorance
is defined. The question then becomes, "What is truth?" How many opinions are there to answer this question?
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I think, perhaps, before a discussion of truth; a discussion of just exactly "Deny Ignorance" means.
Let's start with Websters definition of ignorace - simple and straightforward"
ig·no·rance noun ˈig-n(ə-)rən(t)s
: a lack of knowledge, understanding, or education : the state of being ignorant
Full Definition of IGNORANCE
: the state or fact of being ignorant : lack of knowledge, education, or awareness
We need to define it only a little more - State vs Fact. I'd like to propose, for the purposes of this discussion (I hope) that we use a State rather
then a Fact.
Next, the hard one: Deny, also from Websters:
de·ny transitive verb di-ˈnī, dē-
: to say that something is not true
: to refuse to accept or admit (something)
: to refuse to give (something) to someone : to prevent someone from having or receiving (something)
Full Definition of DENY
: to declare untrue
: to refuse to admit or acknowledge : disavow
a : to give a negative answer to
b : to refuse to grant
c : to restrain (oneself) from gratification of desires
archaic : decline
: to refuse to accept the existence, truth, or validity of
Let's take he possibilities one at a time:
1) To declare untrue:
So "Deny Ignorance" means "to declare that ignorance (the state of) is untrue". Using this definition the phase means that ignorance is untrue, or
ignorance doesn't exist.
2) To refuse to admit or acknowlege.
With this definition of 'deny' the tag line would mean that "we refuse to admit or acknowlege ignorance" also a seeming denial of the existence of
ignorance, an even more emphatic phase IMO.
3) to give an negative answer to:
This is the closest to what I believe is generally meant: "we say no to ignornance"
3b) to refuse to grant
Similar, but less clear "we refuse to grant ignorance"
3c) to restrain (oneself) from gratification of desires. Now this one this twisted, "we restrain ouselves from gratifying our ignorance. I rather
like that one as we are all ignorant in many ways, most importantly, ourselves.
I'm skipping 4 as it's archaic.
and bringing us back to Do so to speak:
5) to refuse to accept the existence, truth, or validity of
"Deny Ignorance" is once again refusal to accept theexistence, truth or validity of denial.
An ambiguous motto if every I saw one.
Thank you EnochWasRight, maybe we can get to Truth at some point. Big T or little t??
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