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Survey: Only 23% NY Doctors Say They'll Accept ObamaCare Patients

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posted on Nov, 1 2013 @ 07:48 PM
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Survey: Only 23% NY Doctors Say They'll Accept ObamaCare Patients

For what it's worth, a survey indicates that many doctors won't be accepting "ObamaCare" insurance policies.

I'm *guessing* that "ObamaCare" policies are the ones offered on the exchange, and possibly some offered to individuals, and maybe some employer policies too.

I don't what the differences are between policie$. Maybe the way they limit payment$ to provider$


23% - yes

44% - no

33% - not sure yet


The article explains some of the confusion.


A survey by New York State’s Medical Society found that of 409 doctors queried, only 23 percent say they will accept patients who have enrolled in an ObamaCare health exchange.

The New York Post reported Tuesday that 44 percent of those polled said they will not participate as providers in ObamaCare, while another 33 percent indicated they have yet to decide whether or not to take patients enrolled in the exchanges and become official ObamaCare providers.

“This is so poorly designed that a lot of doctors are afraid to participate,” said Dr. Sam Unterricht, president of the 29,000-member organization. “There’s a lot of resistance. Doctors don’t know what they’re going to get paid.”



supporting links in the article...
Survey: Only 23% NY Doctors Say They'll Accept ObamaCare Patients


related thread;
Top Hospitals Opt Out of Obamacare?





posted on Nov, 1 2013 @ 08:44 PM
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Don't worry about them not accepting Obamacare policies.

Soon there will be an executive order forcing them.




posted on Nov, 1 2013 @ 08:50 PM
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Metallicus
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Don't worry about them not accepting Obamacare policies.

Soon there will be an executive order forcing them.



Damn.

Beat me to it.

Ditto!



posted on Nov, 1 2013 @ 08:51 PM
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Nothing else is needed.



posted on Nov, 1 2013 @ 09:08 PM
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Well people needs to understand that doctors still have a choice of whom their treat, they take insurance so I imagine that somebody with insurance even if is with the exchange are fair game, but also remember people that Medicaid is now to become also an insurance under Obamacaca, so private doctors still have a choice no to take Medicaid patients just like they do not take now.

Or like somebody already said, Obama can pass a executive order against them.



posted on Nov, 1 2013 @ 10:01 PM
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Dr. Siegel on Megyn Kelly tonight stated that when Obama told us we could keep our doctors, no one asked the DOCTORS, and that over 700,000 doctors are upset with Obama. Dr. Siegel also stated that Obamacare would dictate which tests a doctor could or could not order for their patients and the doctors don't like the constrainments. If they want to order a specific test for their patient they may not be allowed to. Dr. Siegel also said (for an example) that Obama wants the insurance companies to pay only $5.00 for an EKG and the doctors can't afford to provide this kind of care. Their only choice is to go to a cash only basis or join a hospital.



posted on Nov, 1 2013 @ 10:45 PM
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Metallicus
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Don't worry about them not accepting Obamacare policies.

Soon there will be an executive order forcing them.



Exactly as there should be! There should be no way for a doctor to refuse a patient over insurance or other monetary concerns.



posted on Nov, 1 2013 @ 10:56 PM
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ShadeWolf

Metallicus
reply to post by xuenchen
 


Don't worry about them not accepting Obamacare policies.

Soon there will be an executive order forcing them.



Exactly as there should be! There should be no way for a doctor to refuse a patient over insurance or other monetary concerns.


I don't know about Doctors, but Hospitals can't refuse anyone now. You're not treated for your condition extensively if you can't pay, but you're not turned away.

Many of those who are uninsured understand this law and will continue to use it to their advantage. They will not pay for health insurance, and they will not pay the 1% "Individual Mandate" penalty either. It's too bad the Obama Administration is so naïve on this subject.
cwm



posted on Nov, 1 2013 @ 11:44 PM
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Private doctors no associated with any hospital and on independent practices have the choice to treat whatever they want.

Hospitals is different thing, depending if the are private or none profit or public.
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posted on Nov, 2 2013 @ 07:51 AM
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So more Govt control and less personal freedom.

Hopefully you aren't a voting US citizen.



posted on Nov, 2 2013 @ 08:46 AM
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the first problem on this thread is relying on breitbart.

the 2nd is...how will doctors know who has insurance through the ACA?
if someone goes thru an exchange and gets insurance thru Blue Shield...that isn't NOT a clue if they got their insurance thru an exchange.



posted on Nov, 2 2013 @ 12:09 PM
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rickm
the first problem on this thread is relying on breitbart.

the 2nd is...how will doctors know who has insurance through the ACA?
if someone goes thru an exchange and gets insurance thru Blue Shield...that isn't NOT a clue if they got their insurance thru an exchange.


Please do not bring logic to an Obama Bashing thread. It confuses our Rabid Right friends.

Little facts such as the healthcare policies are still from the same Insurance companies belies the notion that everybody is being forced to purchase from the President himself.

We can't have the Truth getting in the way of a good spin on an ATS political forum.




posted on Nov, 2 2013 @ 12:23 PM
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rickm
the first problem on this thread is relying on breitbart.

the 2nd is...how will doctors know who has insurance through the ACA?
if someone goes thru an exchange and gets insurance thru Blue Shield...that isn't NOT a clue if they got their insurance thru an exchange.


It has to do with who is and who isn't "In Network".

All that is set up before the policies are created.

ETA:


Some insurers are narrowing the networks of physicians they offer through insurance plans on health care exchanges as compared to plans purchased outside the exchanges, hoping to reduce costs of the exchange plans enough to attract young consumers who have never purchased insurance before.

Health exchange trade-off: Lower premiums, narrower networks





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posted on Nov, 2 2013 @ 12:39 PM
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Since all insurance policies must follow the changes in the ACA for things such as pre-existing conditions, I guess those doctors won't be taking any insurance.



posted on Nov, 2 2013 @ 01:08 PM
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Kaploink
Since all insurance policies must follow the changes in the ACA for things such as pre-existing conditions, I guess those doctors won't be taking any insurance.


Everything is "Networked".

Networked.

Where was PPACA on that one ?

It's all about Networks !!



posted on Nov, 2 2013 @ 01:26 PM
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Policies are still under the private insurance business, the link to obamacrap is just that they will have to meet the ACA law and that the government will pay some qualifying individuals subsidies for the policies, no to pay the doctors.

It has nothing to do with the type of doctors, hospitals or anything else within the medical community.

The only thing that any hospital or doctor can control is the type of insurance companies they can take.

Hospitals can not deny emergency care to any body, but doctors can chose who they take into their practices.

When doctors are opting ACA is means opting the Medicaid patients under now to be the expansion of Medicaid for the poor.

This is not new, private practices most of the time only take certain amount of Medicare patients and none of Medicaid

But because Medicaid will become the insurance for the poor and needy private practices will have the choice to accept them or not.

Plain and simple.



posted on Nov, 4 2013 @ 11:19 AM
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rickm
the first problem on this thread is relying on breitbart.

the 2nd is...how will doctors know who has insurance through the ACA?
if someone goes thru an exchange and gets insurance thru Blue Shield...that isn't NOT a clue if they got their insurance thru an exchange.


I thought the same thing. Just a strange and confusing OP. The exchanges provide insurance through competing private insurers. SO...Your policy is not issued by "Obamacare" it is issued by BlueCross/Blue Shield etc?



posted on Nov, 4 2013 @ 11:23 AM
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Metallicus
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Don't worry about them not accepting Obamacare policies.

Soon there will be an executive order forcing them.



You can't force someone to do something when they've retired or quit. Pretty plain and simple. The shortages will be coming soon.



posted on Nov, 4 2013 @ 11:40 AM
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You want to explain how a doctor would know your insurance came from the ACA? This is another lie. The insurance you get comes from UHC or Aetna or Anthem, etc. they have no way of knowing how you purchased the policy or if you got govt subsidies to purchase it. It will be a good day when you all fade back into the woodwork when this thing becomes a huge success.



posted on Nov, 4 2013 @ 11:42 AM
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xuenchen
Survey: Only 23% NY Doctors Say They'll Accept ObamaCare Patients



So...this headline ends up being a lie

Took me a while, but found the survey. It DOES NOT say they will not accept Obamacare...it says that 44% are currently not "participating in an exchange plan"...and 33% don't know.

Considering most of the exchange plans haven't gone active yet...that makes sense.

Not one of these doctors ever said they would not accept Obamacare...they were asked about participation in plans that have largely not been rolled out yet...




1. How many health insurance companies’ Exchange plans you are participating with?

a. I am not participating in any health insurer Exchange plan 44.0%
b. 1-2 10.3%
c. 3-5 5.9%
d. More than 5 6.4%
e. Not sure 33.5%

2. Did you choose to be in the network of an Exchange plan, or were you required to by
contract?

a. I affirmatively chose to be on the panel of an Exchange plan(s) 5.9%
b. I had to participate as a result of a contract provision requiring me to participate with all products offered by that insurer 16.3%
c. I had to participate as a result of a contract with a rental network entity (such as Multi Plan or MagnaCare) 1.7%
d. I do not participate with an Exchange plan 36.3%
e. Not sure 39.8%

3. Did any of the health plans with which you participate give you an opportunity to opt-out of participating in its Exchange product?
a. Yes, and it was not difficult 7.1%
b. Yes, but it was difficult 3.7%
c. No 37.0%
d. Not sure 52.1%



AND...for effs sake...doctors KNOW NOTHING about billing. As evidenced by the high percentage of "I don't know" in this survey. That's why they have billing departments.

www.mssny.org...
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