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Chinas Nuclear Submarine Attack Plans for the USA Revealed on Chinese State Run TV

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posted on Nov, 3 2013 @ 05:14 AM
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Wrabbit2000
Soooooooo..... About that ballistic missile test off the Pacific coast some time back, that no one seemed to know the origin of?

You don't think......? Nawwww... Couldn't have been... Could it?


You mean the persistent contrail that fooled a lot of people! Ask yourself why the news station didn't release the full tapes and only released edited footage? The cameraman Gil Leyvas was also fooled the previous week by a contrail.

contrailscience.com...

From Gil Leyvas interview

"Well, I realized that it was something that we saw earlier from the week before -- we saw something very similar the past Thursday, and immediately I realized that it was something very similar, and called on the 2-way there to our assignment desk to let them know that we were seeing it again. It's not as dramatic as the one from yesterday -- the one from yesterday was pretty spectacular. Like I said, it was growing in nature and continued to fly up into the sky, and at one point it seemed to separate. The smoke or the plume seemed to stop and then continue further up in the sky and then finally disappear."


UPS902 a McDonnell Douglas MD-11 flew the same route/time on the 4th from Honolulu to Ontario, California. Ask yourself why Gil Leyvas didn't offer up the footage from the 4th November?
just put this whole event to rest? Was Gil filming the UPS MD-11 on 4th November at sunset? Tri-engined airliners are noted for their production of heavy and blended contrails.

The 'Californian Missile' was simply a slow news day at a news station and people being fooled by sunlit contrails. People were still filming 'missile trails' days after the sunlit contrail footage was aired.

Florida 2008

Just imagine if the following sunlit airliner contrail footage had got the same coverage as the event on the 8th November, 2010?
Simply people fooled by perspective.


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posted on Nov, 3 2013 @ 05:19 AM
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UNSC s useless when one of its members threatens another. Is it then the time to dissolve that useless organ of the UN and to make a new one?

Who will be the moral judge, could the pope raises his voice uniting it with the voices of other religious leaders?

In the face of the nuclear terror and deliberate threats of annihilation of CIVIL population that is not at war with the aggressor, every new form of cooperation between countries should be considered. Including between countries that currently belong to opposite blocks. Such as Russia, Britain and USA. Let not forget that the nuclear share of the still non-official powers India and Pakistan rapidly increases. They are seen mostly regionally and no one really believes they will destroy each other. But with the case of a China playing modern day Hitler, India would be the first hit. May be even before USA because China would think it would be easier to knock down India with Pakistani help. That is an absurd that everyone sane enough should stand against it!

Perhaps a new world body should be configured by the current nuclear states who will declare they will target any aggressor regardless of who he is. China for now temporarily should be EXCLUDED from such a new international body, until it defines its place in a world, where 4 of 5 people are not Chinese.

If the UN had any relevance today it would vote against China. But it would not. It would rather burryitself in endless debates about the Middle east. While the real danger is different.

Israel - should be declared and accepted as nuclear state who bears responsibilities equal to the others, such as Pakistan - the first muslim nuclear country.

Or we go down very fast towards a very big war in which everyone shoots at everyone and only few find shelters provided by the merciful God to the elect ones. We go to the nuclear tornadoes and possibly to the ignition of the atmospheric N2 in chain reaction. Even without that, we certainly go into a nuclear winter that will kill every vegetation and thus life on the surface of the planet, even if your city is not directly hit by the Chinese. This is quite sure in the face of the Chinese mega provocation via modern means of media.

Unless the sun burns us first.



posted on Nov, 3 2013 @ 05:32 AM
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I think TPTB in China are flexing their muscles in the media as a warning to the U.S. They are letting America know not too mess with them in any way; because they have a definite way to swiftly retaliate.

What I want to know is...why hasn't this important information made it to the main stream media?

I found this very interesting article about an agreement between the U.S. and China here is the link... www.whitehouse.gov...



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posted on Nov, 3 2013 @ 05:44 AM
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It is so much speculated with TPTB Illuminati NWO that China and even Russia are part of them, that I tend to disbelieve the entire construction. Read Fulford to know how the things DO NOT HAPPEN in reality, contrary to his ongoing predictions of a new - new world order led not by China but by Japan.

"Lockheed Martin announces plans for SR-72 hypersonic spy drone" may be there is someone in space who is capable of knocking down missiles of China? As we talk about who is in space the question should be defined much better than saying USA, Russia. Not exactly those in space represent earthy entities. Perhaps we are not told everything hapening with that hi tech over there, and perhaps even the presidents don't know it all. Example, the Norway spiral.

China crossed the line. But may be others crossed the line too, therefore they all will sit back and wait. Wait for what? Similar waiting brought Hitler to get the entire Europe when Europe not USA was the most advanced part of the world with Germany the most technological country. Should Hitler have agreed on Stalin's proposal for armistice when German tanks approached Moscow, today we would have a completely different map. With the Nazi tech not going into the American and Soviet labs but remaining in the Reich.

Today China got everything it wanted. Even Maglev of Siemens and nuclear technology. Instead of being satisfied and raising the consumption of its own population, it now threatens USA. Not to attack USA tomorrow. But if China attacks Japan or India tomorrow, the AMericans would be paralized of fear and wouldn't move a finger. The map is already published how they would die slowly and painfully should they do so.

China must be stopped now, as soon as it declared its sinister plans before the face of this planet. Russia should realize China is not an ally, it is the biggest adversary Russia has ever had. Second to Hitler only. China needs resources and wil take them from Russia after USA is defeated. If Russia allows that to happen.



posted on Nov, 3 2013 @ 05:53 AM
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We really haven't come that far as a species. Still throwing plans around to show .....................hey look what I can do. Like some here are pointing out.................nobody wins a nuclear war.



posted on Nov, 3 2013 @ 05:57 AM
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Tarzan the apeman.
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We really haven't come that far as a species. Still throwing plans around to show .....................hey look what I can do. Like some here are pointing out.................nobody wins a nuclear war.


Tell that to the mainland chinese, they really think they could get away with it. Majority seems deluded with their arrogance and if we go by the thinking of their retired generals, it wouldn't be far off from their current crop of officers too.



posted on Nov, 3 2013 @ 06:05 AM
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I don't know how and why the races are so different. But seems racial supremacy is theory not restricted to the white race.

Besides that, the Chinese cult of the dragons is astonishing. It is not only in China, it goes down south to Indonesia.

Is China (one of ) the host country of the dragon of Revelation?
2 Esdras 15 speaks of Arabian peninsula. But they could ally couldn't they? Are we in that time already?

If we are not, the Islamic terrorists and the rising China must be stopped and restricted in their natural areas. Currently China controls practically all East Asia from the Indian border to Asutralia, Japan included. We al know of the dirty trade with cheap Chinese goods (i.e. labor) that left half of Europe and USA unemployed. Why? To give rise of the dragon's empire? Think about that!

I hope after the blunt Chinese threat the West and Russia will both review and change as needed their positions to the "superpower of 21st century". We had enough in 20th century to repeat the experience of our fathers and grandfathers. It was really enough Hitler followed by Stalin, and now by the descendants of Mao. Stop it now, for God's sake. Or you side with the dragon whose time has may be come?



posted on Nov, 3 2013 @ 01:51 PM
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OR...it could simply be a message of China to USA not to mess in Asia. If it is envisioned a Chinese attack on Japan, or may be a North Korean one with nukes.
Still that message is the strangest ever in the last 20 years of Chinese hyper-development to position N2 in GDP, development that the West aided.
Will we witness a rising North Korean monster with full backing of China, as some RV say?



posted on Nov, 3 2013 @ 02:17 PM
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evictiongnostic
And here's a map of the United State's strategic nuclear missile reach.

rlv.zcache.com...


Wow, now isn't that something to be proud of.. !



posted on Nov, 3 2013 @ 03:29 PM
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2012newstart
In the face of the nuclear terror and deliberate threats of annihilation of CIVIL population that is not at war with the aggressor, every new form of cooperation between countries should be considered. Including between countries that currently belong to opposite blocks. Such as Russia, Britain and USA. Let not forget that the nuclear share of the still non-official powers India and Pakistan rapidly increases. They are seen mostly regionally and no one really believes they will destroy each other. But with the case of a China playing modern day Hitler, India would be the first hit. May be even before USA because China would think it would be easier to knock down India with Pakistani help. That is an absurd that everyone sane enough should stand against it!


Not quite. China and India are strong allies, they're like the US and Canada. To be perfectly honest, Russia stands a higher chance of being invaded and that's not going to happen either. If China were going to aggressively expand their borders their only real option is to go south. Going north puts Russia on alert, going west puts India and Pakistan on alert, and going east is North Korea. All of those countries are nuclear powers... not the thing China would want to provoke. Then there's the alliances issue to consider.


Perhaps a new world body should be configured by the current nuclear states who will declare they will target any aggressor regardless of who he is. China for now temporarily should be EXCLUDED from such a new international body, until it defines its place in a world, where 4 of 5 people are not Chinese.


This already exists, without the clause of it being the world against China. Alliances between nations mean that if someone launches a nuke, everyone else will be drawn into it. If Israel nuked Iran, China and Russia would respond. If they nuke Israel we will respond, which then draws in the UK. Any nuclear action is a worldwide response. That's part of MAD actually. It's not just two countries that will annihilate each other, it's the entire world.



posted on Nov, 3 2013 @ 10:53 PM
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It's very simple. It keeps the war machine going for us and them. We gave the Russians our nuclear technology and they shared it with China. Clinton gave them missile targeting technology, and they can now pinpoint hit us, so we better keep up this industrial war machine!

It keeps us focused on the left hand while the right hand is getting into position to give us a proctology exam.




posted on Nov, 3 2013 @ 11:03 PM
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In answer to your question is this:

Geopolitics is much like the game of poker. You have all of the players sitting at the table and cards are dealt. Then it goes into a round of betting, upping the bet and bluffing in an attempt to see what the other person will do. In this high stakes game it is that whoever blinks first is the loser.

China is flexing its military muscle; it does this as part of a propaganda campaign. It is allied with many different countries around the world, many of whom do not like the US. To keep influence and show that it has the capacity to put pressure both economic on the US and in a military pressure it has to show strength that can be backed up.

North Korea has been sending out a lot of rhetoric lately, and China has been hard pressed to put pressure on the regime there. By showing and letting out some military plans, of its capacity on what all it can do, goes a long way to keep things calm on the Korean Peninsula. It also is using such to intimidate other countries, such as Japan and especially Taiwan. Many of the smaller South Eastern Asian countries can be swayed by a show of force, to gather more influence in different regions.

This is simply China’s way of letting everyone know what it has the potential of doing, and at the same time, keeping the US military guessing and working a bit of overtime, along with sending signals to DC. So in answer to your question it is to let its allies and the US know what it is capable and willing to do.



posted on Nov, 3 2013 @ 11:06 PM
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Why would any of these huge countries want expansion and the headache that comes with it when they aren't efficiently exploiting their current territories?

Can someone simply answer this, or shall I make a thread?



posted on Nov, 3 2013 @ 11:16 PM
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teachtaire
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Why would any of these huge countries want expansion and the headache that comes with it when they aren't efficiently exploiting their current territories?

Can someone simply answer this, or shall I make a thread?


I don't think China really does. China realizes that what's best for China is to be economic partners with everyone on the planet.

Russia has made a few attempts at regaining territory they lost when the USSR collapsed but for the most part they're not exactly aggressively expanding.


Even the US which has been the world leader in invading countries during the past 10 years doesn't actually want the territory. We just want favorable economic conditions (mainly to keep the petrodollar going).

It's more about the idea of projecting power. That's the idea behind China's broadcast they simply wanted to remind the world that they're a nuclear power with long range delivery systems. That's something that tends to be forgotten. Really this broadcast was pretty harmless, it wasn't even a provocation but rather a way of showing the world that they have the capability to stand up to the US in an all out war (not that the US or China would ever actually want to do this, both countries are deeply reliant on each other) which is a meaningless announcement to the west but sounds good to crazy people like King Jong Un.

Actually, the more I think about things the more I think they may have made that announcement to keep North Korea under control. China knows that NK is ultimately their responsibility, so they have to appease the NK leadership every now and then. Kind of like Israel being the US's responsibility.
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posted on Nov, 3 2013 @ 11:22 PM
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Aazadan

teachtaire
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Why would any of these huge countries want expansion and the headache that comes with it when they aren't efficiently exploiting their current territories?

Can someone simply answer this, or shall I make a thread?


I don't think China really does. China realizes that what's best for China is to be economic partners with everyone on the planet.

Russia has made a few attempts at regaining territory they lost when the USSR collapsed but for the most part they're not exactly aggressively expanding.

It's more about the idea of projecting power. That's the idea behind China's broadcast they simply wanted to remind the world that they're a nuclear power with long range delivery systems. That's something that tends to be forgotten. Really this broadcast was pretty harmless, it wasn't even a provocation but rather a way of showing the world that they have the capability to stand up to the US in an all out war (not that the US or China would ever actually want to do this, both countries are deeply reliant on each other).


This kind of thinking is what will get the US and the rest of the world to get fooked up in the ass by China.



posted on Nov, 3 2013 @ 11:58 PM
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marhaba
This kind of thinking is what will get the US and the rest of the world to get fooked up in the ass by China.


How so? The Chinese aren't stupid. They're not going to invade a nuclear power. Any conflict between the US and China will not be military in nature, instead it will be based on economics, just like what is currently going on.

Make no mistake in what I'm saying. China wants to be #1 in the world. They also recognize however that they're not going to get there through physical force. The rest of the world is too well defended for that to be possible. Instead they're forced to go the economic route which goes back to what I said before. Their goal is to have economic relationships with every country on the planet as that brings immense wealth with it. At the same time however, while that may be their goal they're quite weak in this area currently and are financially stressed to the absolute limit. That's why they loan the US so much money, that debt they buy backs their own currency and keeps them from collapsing.



posted on Nov, 4 2013 @ 01:02 AM
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I think many people are worried about the "NWO" when we still have the OWO in power.



posted on Nov, 4 2013 @ 05:55 AM
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2012newstart
OR...it could simply be a message of China to USA not to mess in Asia. If it is envisioned a Chinese attack on Japan, or may be a North Korean one with nukes.
Still that message is the strangest ever in the last 20 years of Chinese hyper-development to position N2 in GDP, development that the West aided.
Will we witness a rising North Korean monster with full backing of China, as some RV say?


i don't know if this has been posted already but i think this is just china's satirical response to an earlier american supposed threat or taunt.. nothing more to it really IMO LOL

www.chinasmack.com...



posted on Nov, 4 2013 @ 07:41 AM
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The US and Russia are doing the same. Just look underneath Denver Airport for one. There are many underground facilities on US bases, well stocked, self sufficient and heavily armed. Guess what; you helped pay for them but when TSHTF you aren't invited.



posted on Nov, 4 2013 @ 08:03 AM
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China never ever have talked like that. Instead it always talked that its ICBM are only for an aggressor's deterrent. China always maintained peaceful coexistence and a bridge to peace. What is presented now, if official (and there is a little doubt who stays behind) is just terrible.

If you let China go out of its borders, to Japan or to the South, and you let the spirit out of the bottle. 1 bln people are unstoppable. Yes there are 6 bln more but they are not soldiers most of them. We are talking also of hi-tech that China required from Russia and from the West. None in SE Asia can stop China, neither Australia. May be only Japan stands between China's control of that part of the world. Will USA defend Japan, Taiwan, or S. Korea in any circumstances? How would USA react if China takes some part of Philippines, islands or what?



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