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Gotta get myself into that "black male club" before it starts being attacked.
Wait a minute, all these clubs center around males? Where are the female clubs? Every race needs a female club now.
Okay, let's all stop identifying ourselves as people and start identifying with our genders and races. It seems to be what we're supposed to be doing since all these programs are in place to make sure we compartmentalize ourselves as much as possible.
Because nothing teaches people to get along and judge others on character and actions like the government sanctioned bureaucratic machine dividing them all into race and gender groups.
As a southern white christian, I agree that we still have an advantage in society. It's less open than in the past, but it still exists. The only place in Texas where people are truly color blind when it comes to race is football.
so whats on the chopping block next,,ban on good parenting,, because it gives an un-fair advantage??
reply to post by Logarock
It is reality, even if you don't want to admit it. The fact is you don't feel as if your family has been particularly privileged. But the other fact is you simply do not know with any degree of certainty what all was factored into your son's application being accepted. All you know is that he worked very hard and did get in. But you simply do not know whether or not a person of a different ethnic background that worked just as hard didn't get in because they were ethnically different.
Just because the view from your particular fish bowl says otherwise doesn't make it a matter to ignore.
Is the current system we use to achieve that goal perfect? No it isn't, and that largely stems from people that like you that do not feel particularly privileged refuse to acknowledge that there is a problem and therefore do not work to find better more equitable solutions.
reply to post by Ameilia
That is what I get out of this, mainly "it's okay to treat white people poorly, but you have to watch everything you say or do to other races (non-Caucasian)!"
reply to post by pointr97
We do not judge on race or color or creed, but whether you are a slug.
While this is intrinsically false whatever you consciously accept it or not, I get your point, but we, humans are attracted toward the similar and despise the different, this is hardwired in us and has served us good or we wouldn't be here today it still is a two edged sword and racism and group-think is one of the consequences...
We even have a hard time in discriminate individual faces of distant races, we also fail to identify emotional overtones in their expression. We can even find objectionable smells, air differences (even the lack of it) and body shapes, this without including cultural stupidity to the mixture.
I just wish that people stopped being so sensitive and politically correct and fully addressed the issues and the work required to overcome differences. In a few decades there will not be anymore extreme racial traits and a few decades later one will be hard pressed to find a distinction in skin color, even the beautiful reed aired ones will be gone in just a few generations...
reply to post by projectvxn
Yah, but did you notice in the title page top left corner its from The Tuskegee Airmen? That was the first black fighter squadron in the US in WWII. This document was directed at them in a surely more rascist atmosphere than today. It was designed primarily to help the pilots (who were officers) to deal with those issues which invariably arose in the predominantly white officer leadership of that era.
Top left of page
There was really no need though. They were as qualified as others in the combat arena. They never lost a bomber due to German fighters that they escorted and were often requested for escort duty once word of this spread.
They also conducted more successful raids on ground targets in more operations, theaters and for longer than any of their white counterparts. Much of the gun camera footage from WWII was from their target runs.
I guess they had something to prove.
these are the people that published the document.
DEOMI - Defense Equal Opportunity Management Institute
I actually find that insulting.....I grew up in a small town of Oklahoma, very homogeneous.....My first real experience with a black male was my first roommate at West Point....He is to this day one of my dearest friends and we would take a bullet for each other. My class are now LTCs, and again, this is not what the Army Thinks. We do not judge on race or color or creed, but whether you are a slug.
reply to post by KeliOnyx
"ike you that do not feel particularly privileged refuse to acknowledge that there is a problem"
a. Protected by a legally recognized right against disclosure: privileged information.
b. Protected by a legally recognized right against a lawsuit for libel or slander.
in other words,,"a legally recognized right",,so this is a problem,,in your opinion?
and "privileged" is a universal,,value,,ie: applies to all humanity.