I for one am thankful, this site has such a stringent policy on backing up theories with reputable sources.
This nearly had me choke on my tea.
A stringent policy on backing up theories with reputable sources but nevertheless a "Freedom of Speech" approach to allow any and all information -
For the sake of debate. As long as we are polite we can ridicule anything and spread whatever lies we want.
ATS policy allows us access to huge amounts of information but very little knowledge.
This list being compiled will only further my efforts in helping people identify known hoaxers, fear mongers, and disinfo that is spread via the
Said list will have no value at all.
Those who need to refer to the list won't.
Those who should update the list won't after a while.
Those who search on Google etc. will still be referred to the origional garbage and have no inclination to search for a thread that exposes a
Is there an alternative?
Yes there is. If ATS Staff lived up to their own motto, then they would mark any comment in any thread according to the Hoaxer List with an addendum
in their posting with the text : "Be aware that this poster is a known hoaxer".
It is possible in the programming of this site, but it will never happen.
And even then it would be futile.
As long as DeskTopResearchers are allowed to ridicule proper science and well established principles of science simply because they claim that
"anything is possible", then we have no choice but to consider ATS as entertaining, but not a source for Denying Ignorance.
ATS is a source of a huge number of posts that point you in the direction of very interesting stuff. But that's about it.
Misinformation, ridiculous claims and blatant lies are still allowed and considered important parts of any discussion.
Even the fabulous star and flag system has lost it's significance. Now it is merely a measure of how many followers a given poster might have. It is
by no means a measure of the quality of content. We have all seen loads of stars and flags on stupid and ignorant threads and posts. New users on ATS
are easily confused by ratings next to a handle.
All in all ATS are left with the problem any library in the world is faced with.
How do we insure quality by sorting out the information that has been proven to be wrong?
I work in a public library and we would NEVER knowingly keep wrong information in the hopes that our patrons might find the book that refutes
erronious information. If we know a book contains bad science or bad facts it is either clearly marked as belonging in a section reserved for
"alternative science" - far away from the section with the reputable science - OR it is disposed of.
It would be absolutley stupid to keep the two books next to each other on a shelf. It would give the "alternative book" a certain "It might be
As for those who claim that valid information is easily found on the internet via Goggle and other search engines I can only say this:
Results are given according to popularity or who have paid to get their results towards the front of the list.
Often the valid information is available on sites that charges you for access.
The result is that many only find information that hasn't been validated.
It is a proven fact that students using search engines often stop at page one or two, but most likely will chose any search result that favours what
they already think is correct. Even if it isn't.
edit on 3-11-2013 by HolgerTheDane2 because: (no reason given)