A Microbiologist Explains Her Conversion From Evolution To Creation.

I think that DNA here on earth may have come from other planets that were destroyed, possibly coming on meteors or comets. It integrated into the society of microscopic organisms making a very diverse bunch of different kinds of species of beings here on earth. From there evolution could have taken over and the species changed. The frequency of vibration of the planet is tied into the shapes that form from DNA. If a different planet somewhere is vibrating at the same frequency, I assume that shapes may be similar to here on earth.

What controls evolution is frequencies, including sounds. If the frequencies or the frequencies that induce the frequencies changes than evolution occurs. The creation of this song is important, this language of god has an origination leading back a long time. I don't believe in the theory of evolution because it has flaws, I think it is inadequate because of the limitations it has. It is a joke that people accept this without thinking it through well. Evolution does occur but it is so much more complicated that the theory is written that it is ridiculous.

SuperFrog
Never mind reference to your quote.... another Jehovah witness propaganda article... very questionable at its best....

www.jw.org...

Yup. Just like this sourceless thread where an easy search brought up the same questionable site.

It's great these two people have found comfort in notions that "God did it" when confronting things they don't understand. Now that they've found their personal answers they can retire and leave the unanswered questions in their fields to those still searching for innovations to move forward with.

reply to post by windword

No. It's a logical question. If, because we can't understand biological processes, we claim "God" must'v done it, then the logical question is "Who created God".

The scientific answer to the scientific question based
on an assumption should take into account what an
authoritative work on the subject has to say then.
God is The Alpha and the Omega, The Beginning and
The End. From everlasting to everlasting.

Thou art God.

And retro generations to infinity which is what you suggest,
are even more impossible then a proposed impossibility of God

Io it's not like anyone is stumped by your big scientific
assumption based question.

Guess we should hold on to those Bibles huh ?
At least for reference ?

reply to post by SuperFrog


I did the same search and came up with the same link. Very questionable source to be sure! It's OK for research assistant to say this, maybe if someone more eminent were to step up to the plate and say why they believed in intelligent design, I might be more interested.

Anyway, I didn't think that Christians required proof, I thought they 'knew because they knew'.

reply to post by redmage



Reminds me of Neil deGrasse Tyson who said that he does not have any use for scientist like that in laboratory.



IT is OK for her to find spirituality, but what good is someone in lab if he already knows the answer - everything created by God?! I really question this interview and I am sure that it was bit modified... no real scientist would be this delusional.

It might be interesting to find her email and question her if she is really behind those words...

reply to post by ketsuko


I think it's hard for people to let go of Darwinism because their identity is so wrapped up in being anti-creation and anti-religion. (Look at all the "Evolve Fish" bumper stickers).
I don't think admitting that life is too complex to be random has to mean that you're submitting to religion or the Christian version of creationism.

reply to post by randyvs

And retro generations to infinity which is what you suggest,
are even more impossible then a proposed impossibility of God

No. It's no more impossible that creation goes infinitely back to the creations of gods, than to suppose God has no beginning or end.

It's also possible to suppose that there are more than one god, some older than others. You just have a limited imagination!

reply to post by SuperFrog


I can't resist looking at the end of the book when I pick it up. I was once asked why I still bother to read it.

My answer is because I still don't know how it ended up that way.

My answer to him would be the same.

So what if I believe that God is ultimately responsible for everything? Just because I believe He is ultimately responsible for it only tells me why it is. It doesn't tell me how, and that's what I'm in the lab to find out. I want to know how God did it.

reply to post by OpenMindedRealist

Maybe someday we will all reach your unrivaled level of understanding.

Oh, I doubt it. Windword is quite intelligent.

reply to post by ketsuko

So for me, for us, tsting Darwin and looking for the next layer of our understanding in the process of life isn't about proving or disproving God, it's about a better understanding of the processes of how life and organisms work on the genetic level.

What about people who are not looking for the answer, but their answer? They don't want to be educated, they want to be confirmed.

reply to post by AfterInfinity


This argument makes no sense. You and Hot-airsock will grant the possibility that everything, known and not yet known, in the universe may have been created by a deity, but you are hung up on the question of what it was made from?

Sounds like typical detemined atheism to me. Just as close-minded as the blindy religious that you so enjoy to ridicule.

reply to post by Blue_Jay33


There are a lot more scientist who come to this conclusion than we know, but they are afraid to come out because of ridicule, loss of funding, etc.. Yes there is a conspiracy to stop creation and promote atheism through the Evolution myth, Why? look up the Communist agenda, socialism and atheism go hand in hand..
It isn't easy to un-brainwash people when they been taught Evolution and millions of years since grade school and on TV and movies constantly. A big win for the socialist running the government and public schooling, they succeeded in turning out lots of atheistic animals instead of Godly people.

I am not a supporter of JW's though..

AfterInfinity
reply to post by ketsuko

 

So for me, for us, tsting Darwin and looking for the next layer of our understanding in the process of life isn't about proving or disproving God, it's about a better understanding of the processes of how life and organisms work on the genetic level.

What about people who are not looking for the answer, but their answer? They don't want to be educated, they want to be confirmed.

Lol, you find that problem in all scientific disciplines with all kinds of issues and beliefs, it is, believe it or not, not unique to just those nasty people of faith.

reply to post by windword

It's also possible to suppose that there are more than one god, some older than others.

First none, now it's more than one. Why all the avoiDANCE?
I think you need to settle down and make up my mind as to what it is you believe.
Many Gods to me is just as impossible as no God. The result would be Kaos.

ketsuko
Just because I believe He is ultimately responsible for it only tells me why it is. It doesn't tell me how, and that's what I'm in the lab to find out. I want to know how God did it.

So in essence you want to become God. Scientifically, finding out how involves producing replicable results. You want to obtain and replicate God's ability, thus becoming a "God" yourself.

There's the clash. A fundamental tenet of religions is that one must have faith (belief without proof/knowledge). The moment one has verifiable proof "faith" ceases to exist...

reply to post by OpenMindedRealist


Actually, you closed your mind to the answer and rebutled to fast. This makes perfect sense ~

What about people who are not looking for the answer, but their answer? They don't want to be educated, they want to be confirmed.

Science and Religion both go hand in hand, one is always proving or disproving the other yet they cannot cancel each other out as definitive.

Metaphysically, pending your religious or non-religious beliefs. Many "Just humans" and "Ascended Masters" alike, relate the Earth to a spiritual playground or "School of Life" if you will. Some follow the same path yet we take different roads. It's a matter of perception and all perception is different. It's the ultimate Catch 22. Why judge someone on there beliefs when it sounds illogical, when subsequently the perpetraitors POV is just as illogical to the assoiciated person. Just the same don't judge someone unless you walked in there same exact shoes

reply to post by redmage

So in essence you want to become God. Scientifically, finding out how involves producing replicable results. You want to obtain and replicate God's ability, thus becoming a "God" yourself.

There's the clash. A fundamental tenet of religions is that one must have faith (belief without proof/knowledge). The moment one has verifiable proof "faith" ceases to exist...

Then pardon my bluntness, but faith can go screw itself. In my experience, things work better when based on facts. Maybe faith is the reason religion doesn't work. People getting killed, disease rampant, starvation everywhere...yeah. Less faith, more fact. Last I was aware, fact is what makes medicine work. Fact is what keeps our heat and power going. Fact is what keeps our planes in the air, and fact is what enables us to speak to someone halfway around the world with the push of a button.

Faith gives you warm cuddly feelings about kids dying of disease and starvation in a third world country. Screw faith.

grey580
Evolution and Creation don't have to be at odds.

Just because Evolution hasn't found evidence that we were engineered doesn't mean that we weren't.

And of course everyone knows. It was Aliens.

edit on 29-10-2013 by grey580 because: (no reason given)

Technically God isn't from Earth so he/she/it is an Alien.

reply to post by redmage


Not at all.

I could never be God. No one could, but that doesn't mean I can't begin to puzzle out how it works. That is part of having dominion.

"Then God blessed them, and God said to them, 'Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.'" Genesis 1:28

And since God does not exist in this universe. He is not part of it. He pre-existed it. We will never find Him here no matter how much of its secrets we unravel. We would have to free ourselves from it to find Him. I've already stated - nothing we find here will prove His existence one way or the other, not definitively. Because He made it, He is not bound by it.