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When we catch our own committing such acts, they are no better than the terrorists.
The difference is, we actually PROSECUTE them, and make them accountable for their actions when this occurs.
They CELEBRATE their actions to the world.
THAT is the difference here. Evil humans can be on both sides of a conflict. It's how that side reacts to such evil, that determines which has the moral high ground. I would fully expect that any such US personnel guilty of the acts you cited, to be fully prosecuted to the extent of the law for such actions.
Originally posted by Zipdot
I mostly agree, and would like to add that you shouldn't say the the army is "RAPING CHILDREN," you should use a phrase like, "one individual is accused as having been involved in the alleged sexual abuse of a possible teenager."
CANBERRA, Australia (Reuters) - A body found in the Iraqi city of Falluja appears to be that of kidnapped British aid worker Margaret Hassan, Australian Prime Minister John Howard said on Thursday. "The body found in Falluja appears to have been Margaret's and the video of the execution of a Western woman appears on all the available information to have been genuine," Howard told parliament Thursday.
Originally posted by Indigo_Child
To interject some objectivity in this:
When a US troop or a number of troops commits an atrocity, it's the fault of the troop or those number of troops. When an Iraqi troop/Insurgent/Terrorist commits an atrocity, it's the fault of the organization or race to which they belong? Double standards? Yes, I think they are.
It's actually been exposed by several human rights groups, that kind of abuse is common in US prisons. It's also been exposed the the abuse campaign was systematically done from others from the state itself. When a dozens(hundreds?) of troops are involved in abusing, molesting and murdering people? Then it's suffice to say that it is institutional
You should also not forget more than 15,000 civilians have been killed by US forces in this campaign. That is defined as genocide. Yet, I am sure others, will define it as "collateral damage" As I noted in another thread a while ago, most people would rather condemn the government or certain individuals, than condemn their army, whom are equally as accountable, as they are carrying out their orders - they're an instrument of the government.
I talk to many people who do not support this war, but are only supporting it for their "heroes" in Iraq. You know what that is? Brainwashing; because either way, they are still supporting it.
Anyway I've had enough of this talking, I feel like I am sounding like an activist now, and I prefer not be labeled. I am also getting deeply sick at the things im reading here. It appears people do not want to find out the truth, or listen to the truth, which is easy for them, because for now, they have a comfortable life. Yet, as long as they sheepishly support this government in it's mass-murders and draconian policies, both domestically and internationally, in the end it will take it's toll on them. It will also be fully deserved.
[edit on 18-11-2004 by Indigo_Child]
No, you are wrong.....The U.S. would not be trying to liberate the Iraqi people if we blamed them all for the acts of a few radicals....
And 15,000 civilians? Come on, where are all the bodies?? The U.S. isn't the only media in Iraq...If there were that many civilians killed, I'm sure every country in the world that is against the war would be showing it 24-7...
think the way the entire situation has been handled from the beginning has been atrocious. But the fact is, the troops are there and I hope and pray that they and all innocent civilians all come home alive and safe and that they can stabilize the country so that it's people can live in peace.