A World without the Word God

Let's consider this proposal.
This has nothing to do with whether God exists or does not exist. This has nothing
to do with religion, spirituality or anything else whatsoever.

Let's consider a world that does not use the word at all.
I personally would be fine with that; as a matter of fact, there might only
be positive outcomes.

Without the word God, there could be no way to create a devil. Without the
word God, there wouldn't be some grand flow-chart defined, where people
who suck up to a God-concept created by men are at the top, and the people
who have respect for nature are at the bottom. The words Heaven and Hell
would lose their ridiculous meanings, as there would be no human created
concept at the top; designed purely to dole out suffering to those who disagree
with you, nor a human-designed concept to dole out heaven when it's unearned.

Now blathering about the word God is purely ridiculous anyway. Let's examine
why this is the case with some simple questions that any child would understand.

Question 1
Is God all powerful?

Answer 1
Yes!

Question 2
Is God all knowing?

Answer 2
Yes!

Question 3
Is God everywhere?

Answer 3
Yes!

Question 4
Is human intelligence tiny compared to God's?

Answer 4
Yes!

So let me get this straight. If God decided to lie to you, there is no
way you could possibly know this?

No! I have faith! God wouldn't lie to me?

If God is God, how could you possibly know that?

By definition; a tautology of 1=1 really, any absolute God you can
absolutely trust CAN'T BE GOD AT ALL.

If you can't possibly know whether God is lying or telling
the truth, then all your rules and regulations that you follow
and try to convince others about make no sense. For all
you know, attending church or temple and reading your
holy book (whichever one it is) --- is the very thing which
pisses God off, and He will put you between two slices
of bread and eat you for lunch.

Now this is not some can God create a stone too big for Him
to lift sort' sort of garbage. This is not some logic trick.

There is no problem with defining God as nature.. but then
we could just say Nature. There is no problem with defining
God as the universe. Nobody is going to send you to hell
because nature or the universe doesn't happen to like you.

But when the word God has those silly attributes baked
into it, and then is used as a weapon to cause death and
suffering, then the word is crap and needs to be discarded.

It needs to be boycotted.

Am I saying that God does not exist? Not at all. Am I saying
that we shouldn't try to evolve towards a superior ideal?
Not at all. Am I saying that we should be kind and loving?
Not at all. Am I saying that we shouldn't be open to
infinite possibilities? Not at all.

Am I saying that if everyone gave up the word God, that
the world would be a much better place, and people
would have to find some other reason to hassle people
and be assholes?

Yes, that's what I'm saying.

I suggest that every last human stop blathering about God,
when they couldn't possible know one tiny fact about God,
unless God wants them to, and they'll never know, either
by faith, or by reason, that this has actually happened.

This same concept isn't just for religion; it's for spirituality
too. Without God, the word enlightenment doesn't mean
nearly as much either. There would be no smug enlightenment
to separate people. Could we still have sages (intelligent
and learned people)? Yes. Could we have ultra-kind
people? Yes. Could we have people who took your
breath away? Yes. Could some people even be more
advanced in some ways? Sure. Kim Kardashian has a
really advanced rear end --- I'll never have one like that.
But I wager she doesn't know computer networking or
obscure forms of meditation like I do. She's advanced
in some things.. and I'm advanced in other things...
but without that poisoned word to put one of us on the
top of some cosmic flow chart ---- it doesn't matter one
bit who is advanced in what!

Maybe not being a pushy asshole to the people around
you, who don't need any fancy word to define them,
would make more sense?

But PLEASE. Be loving. Be advanced. Be hyper intelligent.
Be honest. Be loyal. Be all that good stuff. Push your
limits. Meditate. Evolve. Become awesome!

Would you join me in going cold turkey and stop being
part of the problem by using that awful toxic word?

If this makes sense to you, tell others! Tell them
that it was your idea if you want.. because if you
embrace the logic and the heart of it.. it doesn't
matter where it originated -- it's your idea!

This one thing.. to boycott the WORD God, has
tremendous power...

KPB

reply to post by KellyPrettyBear


God , Universe, Everything, whatever.
All the same idea.

Why should I avoid using such a meaningful term simply because someone else has a narrow understanding of the terminology?

I am trying to grow and increase my vocabulary, not decrease it. So I am gonna use that word often as it explains a wide array of ideas.

muzzleflash
reply to post by KellyPrettyBear

 

God , Universe, Everything, whatever.
All the same idea.

Why should I avoid using such a meaningful term simply because someone else has a narrow understanding of the terminology?

I am trying to grow and increase my vocabulary, not decrease it. So I am gonna use that word often as it explains a wide array of ideas.

That word has 200,000 years of suffering, insanity and death baked into it.

If the mere act of discussing cancer would give you cancer.. then
I'd avoid the word cancer.

I'm not going to argue for suffering, insanity and death.

KPB

reply to post by KellyPrettyBear


Religious people will not boycott it so it wouldn't make much of a difference .

I try to avoid the word though because "god" can mean anythimg.

You've some interesting questions.

Personally, as a matter of opinion, methinks the god and gods thing if that was just passed over and edited out of the entire evolutionary line, humanity would have been much better off.

Without god or gods to seek approval from or cast blame on, people would have no choice but to accept responsibility and be held accountable for their own actions or inactions.

Additionally, the only approval ever going to happen will be coming from your peers, as is likewise for disappointment.

No imaginary stuff to it. It'd be a WYSIWYG world.

arpgme
reply to post by KellyPrettyBear

 

Religious people will not boycott it so it wouldn't make much of a difference .

I try to avoid the word though because "god" can mean anythimg.

Oh I understand your response. But just those 4 questions have power..
I've seen many people catch bugs in their mouths after those questions.

Now, I love like I cannot properly describe. I care like I cannot properly
describe. I feel a deep connection --- to what seems everything.

But that word --- in human history it has been used to cause so much
suffering and death.

That word is a meme, a virus, that takes advantage of human weakness.
It turns humans who have the capability of being noble if they wish,
and turns them into savages.

KPB

KellyPrettyBear

muzzleflash
reply to post by KellyPrettyBear

 

God , Universe, Everything, whatever.
All the same idea.

Why should I avoid using such a meaningful term simply because someone else has a narrow understanding of the terminology?

I am trying to grow and increase my vocabulary, not decrease it. So I am gonna use that word often as it explains a wide array of ideas.

That word has 200,000 years of suffering, insanity and death baked into it.

If the mere act of discussing cancer would give you cancer.. then
I'd avoid the word cancer.

I'm not going to argue for suffering, insanity and death.

KPB

You are arguing for intolerance agianst your religious rivals.

Are you really this bothered by a word?

Do you blame this word for misdeeds of mankind instead of the actual people who committed the crimes?

How does keeping a word equate to automatic death and evil??

Even if the word God never existed, human beings would just find another word like the higher power or the creator or whatever. I think way back when mankind began, he would see the stars and moon and and all of life and knew instictively that there was something...else, something greater than himself. They still do.

reply to post by KellyPrettyBear


I dont buy into your false claims of love.

Unless you mean love coming up with new totalitarian ideas. That would work.

But really your post reeks of intolerance.
How do you not see this?

You cannot use a disguise or mask to hide your true intentions, got the X Rays shades on.
Seeing right through to the bones.

muzzleflash

KellyPrettyBear

muzzleflash
reply to post by KellyPrettyBear

 

God , Universe, Everything, whatever.
All the same idea.

Why should I avoid using such a meaningful term simply because someone else has a narrow understanding of the terminology?

I am trying to grow and increase my vocabulary, not decrease it. So I am gonna use that word often as it explains a wide array of ideas.

That word has 200,000 years of suffering, insanity and death baked into it.

If the mere act of discussing cancer would give you cancer.. then
I'd avoid the word cancer.

I'm not going to argue for suffering, insanity and death.

KPB

You are arguing for intolerance agianst your religious rivals.

Are you really this bothered by a word?

Do you blame this word for misdeeds of mankind instead of the actual people who committed the crimes?

How does keeping a word equate to automatic death and evil??

I have no religious rivals, as I'm not religious. I'm a student of nature. Call
that religious if you wish.. I don't..

The word itself does not bother me in any way.. it does not corrupt me.

If one looks back in history and examines various root concepts, which
are embodied as words, one can trace back huge errors to their
very beginning, that have been enablers for horror upon horror.

That word is just one of them.

A similarly awful word is enlightenment.

It turns brother against brother.. I've seen that word destroy
dozens of lives.

Yes, it's the concept behind the word.. but without beating
people up with the symbol in the form of the word right
and left, one is just a regular person with various talents,
skills and aptitudes -- and that doesn't harm oneself or
others.

This post was meant to be serious.. but also a simple
example of the awful power words can have..

Without all the toxic words we worship, we'd treat
each other and the other animals far better than
we do.

KPB

To 1 the aware conscious mind as opposed to unaware animalistic mind has to process history and ancient data then process some science of the understood surroundings native and cosmic more then formulate current personal acknowledgment of what the word truly means or who it refers to.

For the name GOD even if not "self" given by FATHER or the LORDS still may be related to actual Beings-Energies that are part of reality.

Personal perspective 1 acknowledges that I do not know all but somehow seem to be given opportunity to LEARN. And don't feel this learning is just spontaneous or sporadic with many but more guide or overseen related and if so when considering others also LEARNING why?

What sparked the intelligence or advanced problem solving as opposed to naturally co-existing unaware like other CREATOR Creations of the more animalistic do. And for this alone the intelligence or awareness upgrade given to "interpret" 1 acknowledges HIGHER ENERGIES that carry the names GOD and respect them for who they may be.

The moment you go around thinking you are the top or best LEARNING assist in teaching you STILL more is needed to be understood about yourself as well as others.

Perhaps instead of trying to eliminate words, EDUCATION of Objective Reality would assist better.

NAMASTE*******

reply to post by KellyPrettyBear


So what you're saying is... stop believing in god as it's nothing but trouble, and just be nice.

I agree.

winofiend
reply to post by KellyPrettyBear

 

So what you're saying is... stop believing in god as it's nothing but trouble, and just be nice.

I agree.

I don't care who believes in the absolute, or what form they believe
the absolute has --- if in fact it even makes sense to talk about
an absolute.

I'm talking about the awful power of words to keep us prisoner;
to funnel our awareness into knots and crap everything up.

We tell ourselves awful stories with awful words.

But yah, being an asshole due to a single logically-inconsistent
word --- yah, not good.

KPB

reply to post by Ophiuchus 13


Many spiritual traditions recommend purging before just adding more.

Education - yes.
Piling more meaning onto an already logically-inconsistent word,
then arguing about it and killing each other over it?

Not so much.

KPB

KellyPrettyBear
reply to post by Ophiuchus 13

 

Piling more meaning onto an already logically-inconsistent word,
then arguing about it and killing each other over it?

Not so much.

KPB

Accepted...

reply to post by KellyPrettyBear


The NWO satanic globalist oligarchy has scheduled the removal of The Bible from the planet.

They won't succeed but they'll get frightfully far down that road.

Then you'll see how "wonderful" the result is.

The fabric of reality . . . actually . . . is held together by the active Word of The Father.

. . . which is not confined only to the short printed text . . .

muzzleflash
reply to post by KellyPrettyBear

 

I dont buy into your false claims of love.

Unless you mean love coming up with new totalitarian ideas. That would work.

But really your post reeks of intolerance.
How do you not see this?

You cannot use a disguise or mask to hide your true intentions, got the X Rays shades on.
Seeing right through to the bones.

I'll let you in on a little extra info.

I was the kid who got beat up all through highschool.
I got molested in high school.
I got molested at home.
I got set on fire in the military as I slept.

You know what?

I've never hated anyone.

Did I always love them?

Nope, I thought they were monstrous.

If you don't think I feel love, that's up to you.
It's all the same to me.

The only reason that I ever mention that I love
people, is because sometimes I get overcome
with the feelings..

I also like to mention that I love people, to let
them know I am not putting anybody down..
not judging anybody.. not trying to convince
them of anything.

I share my views.. we all do.. this is a public
chat forum and everyone likes to share their
views. I'm exactly the same.

Now, if you came to my door and broke in
and attacked my family.. I'd still love you..
but I'd do my best to stab you in the eye
with a butcher knife.. for the sake of
my family.

You may not like my posts.. but I'm not
bull#ting anyone.. what you see is
what you get.

I also don't put you down in your posts..
just in case you haven't noticed.

KPB

reply to post by KellyPrettyBear

That word has 200,000 years of suffering, insanity and death baked into it.

Your critical mistake is this statement here and reveals true intentions.

The word "God" is at best 800 to 1000 years old in this current format.

200,000 yrs huh? Isnt that how old science assumes human beings are?

We hadnt even developed writing or even the art of painting a cave wall.....

Cave paintings are paintings found on cave walls and ceilings, and especially refer to those of prehistoric origin. The earliest such art in Europe dates back to the Aurignacian period, approximately 40,000 years ago, and is found in the El Castillo cave in Cantabria, Spain.

So you are saying the relatively new word, God, has caused death since 160,000 yrs prior to developing cave painting techniques??

This totally proves you havent a clue, and the entire point of the thread is about pushing religious intolerance.

You are apparently trying to disguise it though, for obvious reasons.

Oh well, you are entitled to believe complete fiction, suit yourself.

KellyPrettyBear
Let's consider this proposal.
This has nothing to do with whether God exists or does not exist. This has nothing
to do with religion, spirituality or anything else whatsoever.



Without the word God, there could be no way to create a devil. Without the
word God, there wouldn't be some grand flow-chart defined, where people
who suck up to a God-concept created by men are at the top, and the people
who have respect for nature are at the bottom. The words Heaven and Hell
would lose their ridiculous meanings, as there would be no human created
concept at the top; designed purely to dole out suffering to those who disagree
with you, nor a human-designed concept to dole out heaven when it's unearned.



Am I saying that if everyone gave up the word God, that
the world would be a much better place, and people
would have to find some other reason to hassle people
and be assholes?

Yes, that's what I'm saying.



Could some people even be more
advanced in some ways? Sure. Kim Kardashian has a
really advanced rear end --- I'll never have one like that.
But I wager she doesn't know computer networking or
obscure forms of meditation like I do. She's advanced
in some things.. and I'm advanced in other things...
but without that poisoned word to put one of us on the
top of some cosmic flow chart ---- it doesn't matter one
bit who is advanced in what!

Maybe not being a pushy asshole to the people around
you, who don't need any fancy word to define them,
would make more sense?

If this makes sense to you, tell others! Tell them
that it was your idea if you want.. because if you
embrace the logic and the heart of it.. it doesn't
matter where it originated -- it's your idea!



KPB

This idea of yours doesn't make sense to me as you claim that if everyone gave up one word God, that
the world would be a much better place ...because people would find some other reason to hassle people
and be assholes?
How could the boycotting of one word (that means to me infinite intelligence and goodness) make the world better?
The word God is not the cause of mankinds problems.

In boycotting the word God why would there could be no way to create a devil?
The earth at the moment has the most corrupt and evil materialists at the top, so
without the word God there would still be some grand flow-chart defined, where people
who suck up to a devil -concept created by men are at the top.
Wars are fought to steal other country's resources and the word God does not come into it.

Interesting had you instead suggested boycotting ALL concepts/words as an idea.

BO XIAN
reply to post by KellyPrettyBear

 

The NWO satanic globalist oligarchy has scheduled the removal of The Bible from the planet.

They won't succeed but they'll get frightfully far down that road.

Then you'll see how "wonderful" the result is.

The fabric of reality . . . actually . . . is held together by the active Word of The Father.

. . . which is not confined only to the short printed text . . .

I quote the Bible a lot.. I admire so much of what Jesus said.

I'd never want the Bible removed from the world.. it's a wonderful
teaching tool.

But for any man or woman to think that their interpretation of the
absolute allows them to put their brothers and sisters down ---
yuck! That's exactly what Jesus preached against.. and all the
established religious institutions and people hated him.

KPB