Report: Final Cost of Obamacare Website Tops $1 Billion

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I vote number two. They need more money for other things like buying elections and people. It has to come from somewhere. And by the way...if you argue over the price...YOU'RE RACIST!

IAMTAT
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Obamacare is like___________
1.) A root canal on the American taxpayer?
2.)

Anal without lube?

If you think about some REALLY basic figures like population, likely numbers of users at any one time would be 350 million people, lets say initial use is huge but it flattens out still only going to be a few million connections.

What might you need?
A highly secure server setup, web devs to make the web side work, government guys to do the social security side, net admins, systems admins, customer services, plus the hardware, internet pipes, and anything else i havnt named yet - still this is all so EASILY doable for a FRACTION on a billions dollars. Doable maybe for 10%?, 100 million?

How much did the DMV website(s) cost?
Any other government website?

How bad is it, it is so bad that you have to wonder if Republicans can't win 2/3rds controll of the house and senate in 2014. I sound like Jay Leno all of a sudden

If this is true someone should get a public hanging. Absolutely ridiculous price tag.

I just hope there are many like me who will refuse to buy health insurance that will not cover most of my medical expenses if I should have any issues. Unfortunately most people do not have the courage to stand up for what they believe in.

Just thinking about the Obamacare debacle makes my blood boil.

Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare website

First Lady Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is a top executive at the company that earned the contract to build the failed Obamacare website.

Give blame where blame is due. The FLOTUS gifted this no bid contract to build the $678 million Obamacare enrollment website at Healthcare.gov to a former classmate who,like her self, is also a member of the Association of Black Princeton Alumni.

How big a piece of pie do you need?

Plenipotenentiary:

plenipotentiary
noun : a person (such as a diplomat) who has complete power to do business for a government

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WOW. I hadn't seen this article,...but it's something of a bombshell...and a new thread unto itself!

rickymouse
It wouldn't be bad if the site actually worked

It is obsolete before it even got used.

I have to disagree, a billion dollars for a website is ridicules even if it worked perfectly. I think that is it plain and simple that the vast majority of that money went nowhere near the development of the site. It is just another example of the government using projects to launder the tax money that they are stealing from us.

Majiq1

rickymouse
It wouldn't be bad if the site actually worked

It is obsolete before it even got used.

I have to disagree, a billion dollars for a website is ridicules even if it worked perfectly. I think that is it plain and simple that the vast majority of that money went nowhere near the development of the site. It is just another example of the government using projects to launder the tax money that they are stealing from us.

But what about Michelle's friend who is an exec at the site, doesn't she deserve a twenty million dollar bonus

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Interesting that CGI became a major contributor to Obama, AFTER receiving the contract.
I wonder how much of that $1B will find it's way back into Barry's pocket?

George Schindler, the president for U.S. and Canada of the Canadian-based CGI Group, CGI Federal’s parent company, became an Obama 2012 campaign donor after his company gained the Obamacare website contract.

dailycaller.com...

IAMTAT
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Interesting that CGI became a major contributor to Obama, AFTER receiving the contract.
I wonder how much of that $1B will find it's way back into Barry's pocket?

George Schindler, the president for U.S. and Canada of the Canadian-based CGI Group, CGI Federal’s parent company, became an Obama 2012 campaign donor after his company gained the Obamacare website contract.

dailycaller.com...

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That's the way it works here in the USA. The people on top support those who support their cause.....with our money.

Do these figures include the infrastructure required to run the web site?

A website is more than just some code. You also need servers, firewalls, routers, backup power supplies, as well as connections to the internet with appropriate bandwidth capabilities.

It probably has a huge number of load sharing http and database servers. The security hardware itself was probably a hefty investment due to very likely scenario of domestic and foreign hacking attempts.

This isn't a site that can rent some space from Amazon Web Services.

Kaploink
Do these figures include the infrastructure required to run the web site?

A website is more than just some code. You also need servers, firewalls, routers, backup power supplies, as well as connections to the internet with appropriate bandwidth capabilities.

It probably has a huge number of load sharing http and database servers. The security hardware itself was probably a hefty investment due to very likely scenario of domestic and foreign hacking attempts.

This isn't a site that can rent some space from Amazon Web Services.

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I don't doubt it's a hefty investment, likely in the millions (on the high end), but it shouldn't come anywhere near a billion dollars. As a person who sells computer hardware/software/services on a daily basis, I see how much servers, firewalls, backup power supplies, routers are, etc...

And the reason why I want to see a detailed breakdown of the hardware/code writing/services, so I can cross compare what they SHOULD be paying. I'm sure the US Govt. is a "named" account with major manufacturers like HP/Dell/Cisco ect., there's no reason why they aren't getting HEAVILY discounted pricing on hardware due to the shear volume they buy on a yearly basis.

Pure robbery. Why isn't this money being confiscated back? Why aren't we investigating the people who negotiated the contracts and authorized the payments?

I am beginning to wonder if Obama purposely overspent on this website so lawmakers would have a harder time justifying repealing the bill, especially knowing that a billions was spent that would have been spent for nothing, in the event it's repealed.

You have to overpay on a government contract by billions so that there is plenty of billions left over for future campaign donations. #whattheydowithtaxpayermoney #payback #payitforward #thegame

Even if every penny was spent wisely to maintain this website, which I doubt, it still shows why socialism on such a large scale is a bad idea. Add in the fact that most is probably kickbacks and you have corruption right out in the open, which is sadly nothing new, but people are reacting to this because everyone understands computers to a certain extent. Most people are in the dark when it comes to banking and infrastructure, so 700 billion dollars is as foreign as the banking sector, but a half a billion or a billion for a website hits closer to home. I told my wife the cost of the website and she refused to believe it at first, it was literally a plug the ears shut the eyes kind of thing. More and more people will realize the insane cost, and it seems like this healthcare train wreck is just warming up. Hopefully sanity returns fast otherwise healthcare will skyrocket just from mental breakdowns caused by healthcare. Does ACA cover physical/mental damages caused by ACA?

Okay guys.. On and off and in one form or another, I've been online since about 1988/89. I'm no babe in the woods and the first multi-user site I had some admin position with was a Computer Tech site in Irvine, Ca when I was about 13. So I'm familiar with the mechanics of online operations, basic networks (I'm no expert on that) and what it takes to make basic website infrastructure.

Someone...who must have FAR more knowledge than I..PLEASE explain something to me here.

While sites some CNN and other MAJOR MAJOR online properties run off Joomla of all things (and it's FREE by the way), what in the name of common sense happened here?!?

Oh, I get it if they built ONE website on ONE server to service over 300 million people. That is what we would call idiocy and professional incompetence to the level of felony fraud, in my view. If THAT happened, someone claimed they knew something about their job and they didn't know a server from song note.

HOW HARD would this have been...HONESTLY...to have made ONE site. ONE ..*PER* each of the 50 states. That would be 50 sites, for those in Washington who are math challenged. Joomla is ONE CMS system that could have done this. There are several others. They can be built as sync'ed mirrors of each other with sync occurring as often and as incremental as one wants ...Prior to ONE LINE OF CUSTOM CODE being written anywhere.


Now these fools weren't making a new invention here. They weren't even being creative. After seeing what they made, downloading the data sheets it's running from (Oh..that was brilliant having all that publicly available...ugh), I've come to the conclusion that their system...SUCKS!

I can say, with fair confidence that for the salary any one of us would call very comfortable, a half dozen of *US* ..from *HERE* could have constructed what they couldn't. Done it in far less time. Then had it fully running for high load stress testing MONTHS in advance so things could be FIXED .....PRIOR to the public breaking them. It's called.. Oh..what is that word.... Yes.. AH-HA! BETA TESTING.. Yes, that's what it's called.

Silly me.. I must be getting like a Politician when a BASIC STEP IN PROGRAMMING ANYTHING is forgotten SO easily to pay corruption and cronyism in business as usual. People should be in PRISON for this. Not just giving pathetic excuses. Start with Sebelius.

From my understanding of the website and what it does, the absolute maximum at it should have cost was $30 million and that's stretching it. That includes requirements, coding, testing, deployment, post production support and virtualized hardware.

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