BRICS Countries Build New Internet to Avoid NSA Spying

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posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 11:15 PM
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Wow it looks like a new internet is being built and is expected to be completed by 2015! This is being done to skirt around the NSA spying. I wonder how long it will take for the NSA to set up shop on the new internet anyways. Although a great idea, it may not be worth their effort.




BRICS countries are close to completing a brand new Internet backbone that would bypass the United States entirely and thereby protect both governments and citizens from NSA spying.

Brazil is set to finalize a 34,000-kilometre undersea fiber-optic cable by 2015 that will run from Vladivostok, Russia to Fortaleza, Brazil, via Shantou, China, Chennai, India and Cape Town, South Africa. According to the Hindu, the project will create, “a network free of US eavesdropping,” which via legislative mandates will also force the likes of Google, Facebook and Yahoo to store all data generated by BRICS nations locally, shielding it from NSA snooping.

BRICS Countries Build New Internet to Avoid NSA Spying

Too bad us Americans can't be a part of it, or maybe we could be? Take a look at this map, it shows a stop in Miami.





posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 11:32 PM
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As long as they don't hire the folks who worked on the Obamacare website - they should be good.


Glad other countries are waking up to the nightmare that the USA has become - now if only our populace would.
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posted on Oct, 25 2013 @ 02:47 AM
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Good for them.

What really gets to me is the fact...that everybody is sort of...annoyed with this NSA thing...but nobody dares to stick it to the bully.

The bully does not even apologize for it...like any other high school bully...he just keeps doing his thing, and like the bully, in his own mind he does not recognize the wrongdoing that he does.



posted on Oct, 25 2013 @ 03:33 AM
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MarioOnTheFly
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Good for them.

What really gets to me is the fact...that everybody is sort of...annoyed with this NSA thing...but nobody dares to stick it to the bully.

The bully does not even apologize for it...like any other high school bully...he just keeps doing his thing, and like the bully, in his own mind he does not recognize the wrongdoing that he does.


Have you noticed that there is more outrage from other countries than our own? Or do perhaps Americans feel helpless against a tyrannical government?

Obama certainly knocked the country down a few notches as he promised. This is certainly 1 campaign promise that he didn't break.



posted on Oct, 25 2013 @ 03:33 AM
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Double post yet again, sigh... Why is it that I have grown attached to my mouse? It has done nothing but sabotage my posts. Here kitty kitty...
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posted on Oct, 25 2013 @ 03:59 AM
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Maluhia
As long as they don't hire the folks who worked on the Obamacare website - they should be good.


now that is funny.



posted on Oct, 25 2013 @ 04:25 AM
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you know...it's all a big show...

I was just reading a local paper half an hour ago...and there was an article about Merkel outrage for apparently being on the receiving end of the NSA snooping.

But than, there is a comment from German mister of defense in which he says that he would expect for him to be spied upon because he deals with defense issues...????!?!

wtf...I thought. Obviously, many knew about this spying and it's sort off...a given...but when this sort of thing gets in to papers...than everybody pretends to be outraged. In other words...they don't mind spying until it's them or until it's public knowledge. Than you have to pretend you're outraged, otherwise your public might start thinking that you approve of the methods...which you secretly do.

I would get punished for lying to the court, for lying to my employer, for lying to the police, lying to my friends even...but...the bigger the game...more lying and play acting is expected and desired.

Really...for me...wanting to be in politics today...means only 2 things...you are either immoral lying SOB or a poor naive bastard. Which ones do you want to represent you ?



posted on Oct, 25 2013 @ 05:27 AM
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Well Yayy!!! for South Africa and the BRICS countries-however i don't really think it will be safe from the NSA-i am sure the spies will find their way in-good to know i live in a country that is at least Trying,along with others,to preserve online privacy,at least as far as emails and other comms that are meant to be just that-private.Still,i cannot see the NSA not finding a way in.
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posted on Oct, 25 2013 @ 05:36 AM
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The link to Maimi seems to be the current connection that Brazil uses. All Internet traffic is looped on the US, even if they need to call Venezuela or Peru the traffic first goes into the US and then to destination and back again. That is why the NSA can snoop it all...



posted on Oct, 25 2013 @ 05:54 AM
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Then they are going to have to seriously rethink the Miami connecting point-that was the first thing that put a damper on any real excitement about this,for me-a connection to the North American continent-this enterprise would seem to be a house built on sand because of any linkage to any location in America.Do they not get that,i wonder?
But even if any American link-up or connecting point was avoided like pestilence..i still would expect the NSA to find a way in? Just because their main bases of operations are located in the US,they must have set up shop in other locations around the world-well it is what one would reasonably expect.I am happy my country and the Brics nations are making a stand,but i just don't see this enterprise as being feasibly above breaches by the NSA.More of a statement than any real practical solution,i guess-sure wish i can be proved wrong about my thoughts on this?



posted on Oct, 25 2013 @ 07:35 AM
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This is nonsense it won't stop anybody from eavesdropping unless they casn guarantee that every single device plugged into the new backbone has no way whatsoever of sending TCP/IP packets by any other route !!! (this would require a dismantling of the mobile phone network, all comms satellites , removal of existing backbone from all countries linked via new backbone etc etc )

What this will provide is more bandwidth for these countries and network traffic not dependant on the US.



posted on Oct, 25 2013 @ 09:23 AM
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As pointed out in Neal Stephenson's Cryptonomicon, no undersea cable is safe from a government with a submarine.



posted on Oct, 25 2013 @ 09:38 AM
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What if someone were spying on the NSA???? That would be grand! I'm thinking Syria.



posted on Oct, 25 2013 @ 11:11 AM
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all this is rectifying is a congestion, issue also known as a bottle neck.

Its a alternative backbone.

Eventually we will need more of these cables.

This website looks like its only a idea floating about.
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posted on Oct, 26 2013 @ 02:40 AM
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elouina

Have you noticed that there is more outrage from other countries than our own? Or do perhaps Americans feel helpless against a tyrannical government?






What tyrannical government ?

Is the government taking your house from you because they feel like it? Are the police demanding bribes? Are you forced to quarter soldiers in your house ? You obviously have free speech otherwise you couldn't say any of this.



posted on Oct, 26 2013 @ 02:49 AM
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elouina

Have you noticed that there is more outrage from other countries than our own? Or do perhaps Americans feel helpless against a tyrannical government?






What tyrannical government ?

Is the government taking your house from you because they feel like it? Are the police demanding bribes? Are you forced to quarter soldiers in your house ? You obviously have free speech otherwise you couldn't say any of this.



The fact that they haven't hurt me personally, doesn't mean they haven't hurt others. It does have to start somewhere. And we need to end this before we do have what all you mentioned, and much more. Your examples are not very good ones. How about forced socialism, drone strikes, and invasion of privacy? And I am certain there will be others here that can add to my list. Lets not be selective to suit your cause here.



posted on Oct, 26 2013 @ 02:59 AM
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I, seriously, don't think there will be a USA by 2015. Look at what the people running the bozo in office are doing - each and every day.

Amnesty for all the crap coming across the border - and the border patrol ordered to "stand down" during their farce of a gov't shutdown?

Use your heads people - we are being destroyed from within. You think Mexico looks bad with all of it's corruption, crime, and poverty? Look at what we have become in 5 short years....



posted on Oct, 26 2013 @ 04:03 AM
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I think they will just take a submarine down there and install some kind of snooping hardware onto the cable or alternatively just keep cutting it so it becomes useless and too expensive to keep repairing.



posted on Oct, 26 2013 @ 04:26 AM
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Hmm... just as I thought. National internets.



posted on Oct, 26 2013 @ 02:24 PM
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elouina

The fact that they haven't hurt me personally, doesn't mean they haven't hurt others. It does have to start somewhere. And we need to end this before we do have what all you mentioned, and much more. Your examples are not very good ones. How about forced socialism, drone strikes, and invasion of privacy? And I am certain there will be others here that can add to my list. Lets not be selective to suit your cause here.


What drone strikes ? The US government has not launched a drone strike here in the US. Thats just false. There is no forced "socialism".






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