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Millions of Americans Are Losing Their Health Plans Because of Obamacare

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posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 04:19 PM
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Millions of Americans Are Losing Their Health Plans Because of Obamacare

We heard thousands.

We heard hundreds of thousands.

Now we hear Millions ??


Back in 2009 we heard Z-E-R-O --
Promises Promises.....
"If you like your plan, you can keep your plan." - Barack Obama


It must be the pesky mandated minimums ?


The U.S. individual health insurance market currently totals about 19 million people. Because the Obama administration's regulations on grandfathering existing plans were so stringent about 85% of those, 16 million, are not grandfathered and must comply with Obamacare at their next renewal. The rules are very complex. For example, if you had an individual plan in March of 2010 when the law was passed and you only increased the deductible from $1,000 to $1,500 in the years since, your plan has lost its grandfather status and it will no longer be available to you when it would have renewed in 2014.

These 16 million people are now receiving letters from their carriers saying they are losing their current coverage and must re-enroll in order to avoid a break in coverage and comply with the new health law's benefit mandates––the vast majority by January 1. Most of these will be seeing some pretty big rate increases.



follow the data......
Millions of Americans Are Losing Their Health Plans Because of Obamacare

Have YOU been "Cancelled" ?





posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 04:34 PM
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reply to post by xuenchen
 


Just like a base was created to install Obama so will a base be created to make his healthcare work.

The unfortunate situation's that American's are in weather it being poor, out of work or being kicked of there insurance plans is being exploited in a very heartless and ingenuous way.

This has nothing to do with a stupide POTUS but everything to do with his agenda.



posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 05:29 PM
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What happens if someone doesn't have any health insurance if they can't afford it or say are living on the streets? So they get free medical operations etc if they are taken ill and it's life or death?
Also, how much does the average person pay monthly for insurance and what does it cover?



posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 05:37 PM
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scotsdavy1
What happens if someone doesn't have any health insurance if they can't afford it or say are living on the streets? So they get free medical operations etc if they are taken ill and it's life or death?
Also, how much does the average person pay monthly for insurance and what does it cover?


Well, it used to be that if one was sick and unable to pay, government programs like Medicare and Medicaid would provide care. And for everyone, were it life or death, the hospital was legally bound to try to save your life without regards to ability to pay- that would get sorted out later.

Now, they might have to let you die.



posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 05:48 PM
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Not so good at all. Here, regardless of what or who you are, poor or rich , you are given the best treatment available ...



posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 06:19 PM
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Well, Obama is basically NONE of the things he claimed to be before the first election. He was/is the bait and switch president. And the AFA is just another piece of that. He promised socialized healthcare (which a majority of the nation wanted), and instead he gave us corporatized healthcare - a plan reminiscent of Mussolini's governance, except in it's failure of implementation. Now, they have successfully convinced the American population to hate socialized medicine (of which Obamacare is not). In fact, that may have been the plan all along.

My political positions are varied. I deny the 2 party political farce. I have libertarian, socialist and populist views depending on the subject or application.



posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 07:32 PM
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Millions.

Ok. We have millions without insurance.

Does anyone still think this wasn't planned?

Single-payer?
Cloward-Piven?

No-one is this incompetent or idiotic!

This was definitely planned. This was meant to happen.



posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 07:57 PM
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If you make less than 25 thousand dollars a year you will be exempted from the program, this means that you will not qualified for any insurance and will have to fall under the Medicaid expansion in your state, If your state is not expanding Medicaid then you are out of luck.

The whole program was to target middle income families, no the poor or needy, that is another lie of Obama.



posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 08:05 PM
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marg6043
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If you make less than 25 thousand dollars a year you will be exempted from the program, this means that you will not qualified for any insurance and will have to fall under the Medicaid expansion in your state, If your state is not expanding Medicaid then you are out of luck.

The whole program was to target middle income families, no the poor or needy, that is another lie of Obama.



What will be interesting is watching all the people who have aligned themselves with staunch liberal ideology for the sole reason of trying to get as much as they can for nothing jump off the boat like rats when it's set ablaze. Nothing is ever free, no matter how much your government says it will take care of you.

Not sure what Obama and crew were thinking with this but this is the worst piece of American legislation since the Federal Reserve act in 1913. Yes, it's that bad.
edit on 24-10-2013 by Helious because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 09:11 PM
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It's racist to say people are losing their healthcare because of Obamacare, it's clearly the fault of the teaparty.



posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 09:28 PM
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Yes it was planed. I am starting to thing that is was never meant in the first place. It is just a cover for jacking taxes in the form of "fines". Just think of all the millions of people are are going to just have to pay the fine because it is the only way out to them. Now do a little math and add up all those fines. Follow the money. That is what this is really all about.



posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 09:38 PM
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The tea party? heck not I am now blaming Bush,

I been sarcastic, sorry I could not help myself.

edit on 24-10-2013 by marg6043 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 09:39 PM
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Yes we know that, I was one of those that read the bill, but do not say this too loud, because is many that still swear by it, no matter what you say they will defend it with nails and teeth.



posted on Oct, 25 2013 @ 05:24 AM
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scotsdavy1
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Not so good at all. Here, regardless of what or who you are, poor or rich , you are given the best treatment available ...


Yeah, but the "best treatment available" there is not treatment I would ever want. You don't have anything to compare it to locally, so you really don't know how bad your "best available" really is.

I know of a good example here where a teen on vacation and fell seriously ill (a really bad acute MS attack) and wound up in the local hospital. After our docs contacted your national health insurance the treatment authorized was: "don't treat this aggressively, he's going to die in a few years anyway. Just provide enough care to make him more comfortable. As soon as possible send him back."

The treatment our docs requested was expensive, about $1k a dose, and had a good chance of putting MS into remission. Denied because of cost alone. It wasn't any other reason. The poor kid WILL die in a few years with the treatment your "best treatment available" provides. Your guy, not so lucky to have been a UK citizen who actually needed serious care.

With Obamacare, we are rapidly sinking to the dismal level of UK and Canadian medical. For most here like in the UK and Canada, they will have to wait until they are 70+ to find out just how bad this deal is. Then, instead of aggressive treatment like was possible last year, they too will be sent home with a handful of pain killers to wait and die out of sight of other much healthier patients -- you know, the healthier ones who think they are getting good care but are only being treated for cheap, minor illnesses. The illusion of good care has to be kept going!



posted on Oct, 25 2013 @ 09:34 AM
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Was the teen you spoke of a UK citizen? If not, then foreigners have to pay for private treatment. Find it hard that they actually said that to him though.



posted on Oct, 25 2013 @ 10:19 AM
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reply to post by fixer1967
 


yep that`s exactly what it is, a poverty tax!
Too poor to afford insurance but too "rich" to qualify for medicare? no problem you can just pay a tax of $95 or 1% of your income whichever is greater.
Lets say that half of the 48 million uninsured americans end up buying insurance or getting medicare that` leaves 24 million people paying $95 or 1% of their income whichever is greater as a tax to the government, that`s a whole lot of new revenue for the government.
They say that almost half of amercans don`t pay any income tax well it looks like the government found a way to make them pay some taxes after all.

edit on 25-10-2013 by Tardacus because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 25 2013 @ 11:36 AM
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reply to post by xuenchen
 


We told everyone so.

It should be implemented as it was passed. This changing of little things by the Tyrant 0bama and buddies just shows how horrible it is.

No Republican should vote on any changing of it. Put it in place as it was passed as law and allow the full hurt to begin.

All the changing crap does is boil the frog slowly.

A handful of members here told you all so.



posted on Oct, 25 2013 @ 11:39 AM
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Sarcasm I hope.



posted on Oct, 25 2013 @ 11:40 AM
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My wife was telling me last night when she got home from work that They are about to kick family plan and just have people on individually who work at her place..

But she is in a union and they are supposedly trying to fight to keep the current health plans but I dont see that happening... 16 million people already lost heath care... ya.. not possible...


marg6043
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If you make less than 25 thousand dollars a year you will be exempted from the program, this means that you will not qualified for any insurance and will have to fall under the Medicaid expansion in your state, If your state is not expanding Medicaid then you are out of luck.

The whole program was to target middle income families, no the poor or needy, that is another lie of Obama.



I want to add something here marge..

You know whats interesting... The fact that they have this welfare healthcare thing.. if you have no kids and can work they put you on a waiting list(This is prior to obamacare..) so if your a male mostly and can work they put you on a waiting list for some medicare kinda like welfare heath care and sit and wait.. I did this 3 yrs ago and well still waiting..

Its interesting because they couldn't even put some people on healthcare back then.. so what makes it so easy for them to do it now..
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posted on Oct, 25 2013 @ 11:42 AM
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Over a million people have lost their healthcare.

Do you think that will stop them from going to the hospital when they are seriously sick?

Who absorbs those costs while 'they' muddle around with the system? (6 months min)

Get ready for a major economic hit. This is Obama's plan to weaken the US further and further






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