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posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 05:50 AM
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Sandy Hook conspiracies to me represents the very worst the conspiracy/alternative media community has to offer.

These conspiracies show a sickening disrespect for the families of the dead, its spitting on the graves of children in the most disgusting way possible. Most of them revolve around some bad media reporting at the time of the event and the absence of seeing any bodies. Its that last part of the conspiracies that really bother me, really make me angry because they are the most hurtful to the families.

So what you didn't see any bodies, you did not get to see your hard-core doom porn of kids like 6 year old Noah Pozner with the 11 bullet holes that shredded his innocent person. It must be so hurtful to the families when they see this stuff online, when some moron who probably has never been to Sand Hook, starts videos about how their kids did not really die and that they themselves are part of this conspiracy, that they are "actors" and their grief is not real. The only people who could promote such horribly ignorant conspiracies in my view are twisted individuals who have never went through the horror of losing a child in a sudden and perversely violent assault.

I am all for freedom of speech, but with that freedom comes responsibility, responsibility to your fellow man not to abuse that freedom and just like Adam Lazna abused his freedom to bare arms, the proponents of these sick conspiracies are abusing their right to freedom of speech. They are doing this by saying whatever the hell the want and spraying it all over the internet with total disregard to the offense and hurt it may cause others.

Its sick, and its sick that members on ATS, who I would expect to have the intellectual and moral maturity to realize just how wrong this is, not continuing to spread the cancer of these horrible lies.




posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 06:23 AM
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Happy1
reply to post by ManFromEurope
 


Always demoning the messanger, not the message - a very saulalinsky thing to do......

The truth always comes out in the end.


It's not the truth, but a video without any description. Learn to learn! Which would be a very michaelbürschky way to do it..

If you can't handle the truth about the OP, you have to look closer. Which is a georgfriedrichhändel thing to do.





Man, this nearly makes my day..



posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 07:42 AM
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It's not our job to sell the video I agree, but if you still have to be convinced about SH... Perhaps you have been far too lazy. I didn't watch the video but if you don't have 2-4 hours to research various aspects of the SH ho_ax there is nothing some bullet points are going to do for you. It is so blatantly a hoax that no person who spends 2 hours researching it can believe any of it. There is capital murder levels of evidence proving a staged event.

OK I have seen proof of all this... I have seen crisis actor profiles, Gene Rosen worked for fema and could not have been a psychologist, horribly Photoshopped family photos with missing limbs and appendages, pre-published online AP photos of victims and onlookers before the event occurred, heartfelt prayers for newtown graphic published the day before it happened, zero parents crying in tv interviews, all parents flashing smiles and jokes in interviews, aerial footage showing a staged event from a different day, Aerial video of cops storming a school 5 miles away, mysterious deaths in the community of key witnesses, F B I intimidation, Nancy Lanza was C -- I-- A, and she isn't dead, reported she was a teacher at SH, the woman who played her was a teacher at SH and she is still alive after plastic surgery. Adam Lanza didn't exist, they only had one child Ryan.

Mr Lanza and The father of Aurora Co "shooter" were BOTH slated to testify in the LIBOR scandal, helicopter footage showing producers directing zombie walkers at fire hall, Ambulances changing colors due to meshing live video with video from a previous "drill". child actors failing their lines terribly, & calling it a drill, Not one surviving person saw any dead people, adults were forced to put their heads down and close their eyes while walking out of the school to be led by police. Medical examiner... an actor who forced the changing the law 8 months prior to event to allow the fakery to take place, fake and green screened chunks of video from firehall, zero parents identified their children's bodies and they were forced to use photos & the medical examiner "has great photographers", Plethora of second shooter evidence... purple van, man in fatigues handcuffed in woods, nuns wearing masks did the shooting say police reports & men dressed as nuns fleeing scene in tactical shoes, victims walking away from scene wearing different clothes on the same day, children who were supposedly killed have been seen as actors some with Obama AFTER, linked-in evidence of CIA assets posing as parents, unbroken windows that were supposedly shot out.

There are hundreds of other things I have seen online and off that prove what this was. Bloomberg organization planned and executed this event with help from CFIBAI & GE capital.

GE, mortgage fraud, gun control, army corps of engineer contracts, Joel Bacon AAAE, robby Parker linked in profile & who his mother and him work for now and in the past", "Jill Greenberg sandy hook photos", there are many hands in this kitty & like other 'events' when many groups can benefit from something they have all the motive necessary.

Seriously people need to start looking at available evidence themselves and forming their own opinion. If you click through and the video seems compelling & credible then you watch, if its doom porn with music playing over it and whimsical stretches then you skip ahead or to the next video.

OPEN EYES & ALL EARS



posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 07:53 AM
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reply to post by OtherSideOfTheCoin
 


You are being serious right? Well sir I hope you take a closer look for your own good! You were talking about intelligence right? I don't need to convince you but I know things for a fact that I can't post online. PS, I left some cookie crumbles above.



posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 11:15 AM
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Why can't you post what you know online? Do you have the smoking gun?
edit on 24-10-2013 by TorqueyThePig because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 11:19 AM
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reply to post by OtherSideOfTheCoin
 


I most certainly agree with your stance regarding this tragic incident.

However, I do find it odd that there have been no screen shots from surveillance video (that I am aware of) of Lanza on the property. I completely understand why images of the children have not been shown.

I just find it odd that they would post pictures of the Navy Yard shooter but not Lanza. Especially since they are similar situations.



posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 11:51 AM
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Adam Lanza died a day before didn't he?

Nice job with setting the record straight too, These people aren't getting the inconstancies here, they are the inconstancies its something their brains will never process, they don't want to believe it, they are letting these inconstancies slip by with out thinking outside a box of government propaganda.

SH is foul just like the Port Arthur massacres of 1996, that was here in my state,
This massacre happened for real no actors, But a patsy shooter with a low IQ,
We had drills that day, medical trauma drills, cafeteria staff at red arrow cafe, got told not to go into work that day.
We had a morgue van capacity of 24 bodies, in them days we had a murder rate that was lower than that number, plus all murders don't occur at the same time, question is why this was needed in the first place, we later sold this van off.
the only cops in area were called to drugs under a bridge a hour away, only to find out it was a hoax call.
The gun control legation was ready to go on the bench the next day.

You tell me that conspiracies are BS.
edit on 24/10/2013 by amraks because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 11:54 AM
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You know you hit a nerve when all the usual suspects start calling you stupid...


So true,

fortunate for us that hasn't happened here




I will reiterate - when the doubters file in quickly - you know you have something -


Could be the case or simply people having a differing opinion.





Always demoning the messanger, not the message


Since no message was given, just a link to YouTube and a couple words saying Debunk this,

What are on about in this thread?
edit on 24-10-2013 by InhaleExhale because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 12:07 PM
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reply to post by research3300
 





OPEN EYES & ALL EARS


AND LET IT ALL OOZE OUT,


was that as loud as you?





if you don't have 2-4 hours to research various aspects of the SH ho_ax there is nothing some bullet points are going to do for you.


What if the poster you're replying to has spent 2-4 months not hours or days or weeks but months researching and asking for these bullet points to discuss because they probably know more than what a YouTube video can tell them.

You see what happens when open your eyes and ears so much that your brain falls out and you believe your assumptions are correct and even forget that your assuming and go from there as though its fact.

Let me guess, you research consists of internet searches?

Does your research extend past the internet and into other areas of reality where there might be a little less ambiguity so a clearer picture can be seen?



posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 12:15 PM
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reply to post by research3300
 





I don't need to convince you but I know things for a fact that I can't post online.


Shhh,

you have already said way too much


Be prepared to hear a knock on your door.




PS, I left some cookie crumbles above.


That will lead them straight to you, you are really brave.


Why would anyone not seeking attention come online and say I cant say certain things online?



posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 04:10 PM
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research3300
reply to post by winofiend
 


It's not our job to sell the video I agree, but if you still have to be convinced about SH... Perhaps you have been far too lazy. I didn't watch the video but if you don't have 2-4 hours to research various aspects of the SH ho_ax there is nothing some bullet points are going to do for you. It is so blatantly a hoax that no person who spends 2 hours researching it can believe any of it. There is capital murder levels of evidence proving a staged event.

OK I have seen proof of all this... I have seen crisis actor profiles, Gene Rosen worked for fema and could not have been a psychologist, horribly Photoshopped family photos with missing limbs and appendages, pre-published online AP photos of victims and onlookers before the event occurred, heartfelt prayers for newtown graphic published the day before it happened, zero parents crying in tv interviews, all parents flashing smiles and jokes in interviews, aerial footage showing a staged event from a different day, Aerial video of cops storming a school 5 miles away, mysterious deaths in the community of key witnesses, F B I intimidation, Nancy Lanza was C -- I-- A, and she isn't dead, reported she was a teacher at SH, the woman who played her was a teacher at SH and she is still alive after plastic surgery. Adam Lanza didn't exist, they only had one child Ryan.

Mr Lanza and The father of Aurora Co "shooter" were BOTH slated to testify in the LIBOR scandal, helicopter footage showing producers directing zombie walkers at fire hall, Ambulances changing colors due to meshing live video with video from a previous "drill". child actors failing their lines terribly, & calling it a drill, Not one surviving person saw any dead people, adults were forced to put their heads down and close their eyes while walking out of the school to be led by police. Medical examiner... an actor who forced the changing the law 8 months prior to event to allow the fakery to take place, fake and green screened chunks of video from firehall, zero parents identified their children's bodies and they were forced to use photos & the medical examiner "has great photographers", Plethora of second shooter evidence... purple van, man in fatigues handcuffed in woods, nuns wearing masks did the shooting say police reports & men dressed as nuns fleeing scene in tactical shoes, victims walking away from scene wearing different clothes on the same day, children who were supposedly killed have been seen as actors some with Obama AFTER, linked-in evidence of CIA assets posing as parents, unbroken windows that were supposedly shot out.

There are hundreds of other things I have seen online and off that prove what this was. Bloomberg organization planned and executed this event with help from CFIBAI & GE capital.

GE, mortgage fraud, gun control, army corps of engineer contracts, Joel Bacon AAAE, robby Parker linked in profile & who his mother and him work for now and in the past", "Jill Greenberg sandy hook photos", there are many hands in this kitty & like other 'events' when many groups can benefit from something they have all the motive necessary.

Seriously people need to start looking at available evidence themselves and forming their own opinion. If you click through and the video seems compelling & credible then you watch, if its doom porn with music playing over it and whimsical stretches then you skip ahead or to the next video.

OPEN EYES & ALL EARS


Well said...I actually took the time to watch the video myself and this guy makes a decent arguement.





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