Soliders Warn of Coming Gun Confiscation and War Against Patriots

But you have to ask then what the real purpose was in making the non-drug cultivar illegal?

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They probably look very similar to the average person, so it would be easy to grow the others within the cash crop...which would bring in even more cash.

Then you have the corporations who really don't want independent farmers mucking about in their profit margins.

If hemp were to be legalized (the non drug variety), it would put a serious crimp on many of these corporate bosses lives. Can't have that can we? I mean really? Caviar and Cadillac's for the masses? They would not know what to do with their new found riches. /sarc off

Craninalbliss
A couple of thing to think about when TPTB start cracking down.

1.) They will most like cut all communications; Media blackout, Cut power to large regions of the US, Internet and cell phones will most likely go down. My reasoning to this is that the govt wouldn't want everyone to know about this at once.

2.) Shutdown all commercial flights, set up blockades on the interstate highway systems, and major bridges, they can essentially cut off whole cites.

3.) Possible use of a false flag scenario to cause mass fear and use this as a reason to impement absolute control, for example the use of Multiple Fuel-Air devices MOAB / Daisy-cutter? to simulate a Terrorist / Tactical nuclear attack. Imagine how the general pop would react to sudden news of multiple nukes and then all power/ coms go down, very frightening indeed.

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If they can accomplish the first two, they wouldn't need number three.

I think there would be enough mass fear in the event people couldn't travel or call anyone outside. But they would have to know where the ham radio operators are at, and they can get a general idea because all of them need a license and you have to have a ham radio to receive signals in the first place.

There are ham radio operators who are capable of listening to the government frequencies. My dad had one of those "boxes", you know the one you can't talk about? He routinely listened to the Air Force pilots flying from Wright-Patterson in Dayton. But we aren't supposed to know that...that's why I don't know the name of it, just that he had one and used it. I remember the day he was talking and the Air Force broke in and said "please remove yourself from this frequency". We were waiting for black cars to suddenly appear in our driveway. It didn't happen, but it is still funny to this day.

Ham radio operators would be the ones to tell you if it is a false flag or not. That is, if the government doesn't shut them down.

TDawgRex

But you have to ask then what the real purpose was in making the non-drug cultivar illegal?

reply to post by WarminIndy

 

They probably look very similar to the average person, so it would be easy to grow the others within the cash crop...which would bring in even more cash.

Then you have the corporations who really don't want independent farmers mucking about in their profit margins.

If hemp were to be legalized (the non drug variety), it would put a serious crimp on many of these corporate bosses lives. Can't have that can we? I mean really? Caviar and Cadillac's for the masses? They would not know what to do with their new found riches. /sarc off

I certainly didn't know and would not know the difference, and I can see that point.

It would slow down the EPA but increase ATF.

With every possible solution, there's a thousand possible scenarios that can go wrong. I can see that.

reply to post by therealguyfawkes


While in many ways it wouldn't surprise me if this was true; I find it difficult to trust the source. Alex Jones is just a step above tabloid journalism for me. Sometimes the things he says seem to have merit while at other times it seems like he's just pitching whatever wild story he has to get ratings.

GrimReaper86
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While in many ways it wouldn't surprise me if this was true; I find it difficult to trust the source. Alex Jones is just a step above tabloid journalism for me. Sometimes the things he says seem to have merit while at other times it seems like he's just pitching whatever wild story he has to get ratings.

Though Alex Jones has been right occasionally, I find that he's more about trying to scare the poop out of everyone for the sake of ratings and shock value. He may have at one time had credibility, but as his popularity increased, his credibility has gone down.

We all know there are millions on top of millions of people that have NO plan to let go of their weapons, but there are plenty (maybe even most) military folks with the same attitude. They wouldn't want to surrender their person weapons if they were not military nor would they want their family or friends. We see plenty of military making messages of what the were not signed up for even as far as there duties in other countries. They may run exercises, but when the chips are down there is now way the larger group would allow this.
At the end of the day, a true American supports the rights of Americans. I don't think any military will allow a tyranny to take over.

GrimReaper86
reply to post by therealguyfawkes

 

While in many ways it wouldn't surprise me if this was true; I find it difficult to trust the source. Alex Jones is just a step above tabloid journalism for me. Sometimes the things he says seem to have merit while at other times it seems like he's just pitching whatever wild story he has to get ratings.

The first time I heard of Alex Jones was probably in 2005. I saw that he presented videos, but if you wanted to know what was in the videos you had to buy them. This is the first time I saw Prison Planet.

After watching his so-called "infiltration" into the ceremony of the big owl...I could tell immediately that he had manufactured it.

And what is so funny, is that he got his information late. Pat Robertson wrote a book in 1992, that exposed the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergers and the New World Order. What's funny is that people call Pat Robertson a crack-pot, at the same time ripping off what he wrote in the first place. Hmm, I had that book,

New World Order

I knew about this before Alex Jones did, and people call Pat Robertson a crack-pot. But all of what Pat Robertson said is embraced by every conspiracy theorist. He saw it coming before Alex Jones and he warned people, but because he is a Christian, people brushed it aside, but still embraced what he said. Interesting.

Every conspiracy theorist is repeating Pat Robertson in his book. Every conspiracy theorist. I read this book way back then and said "if this is all true, then we are in trouble". Then many years later Alex Jones says the same things. Funny stuff there.

reply to post by WarminIndy

But you have to ask then what the real purpose was in making the non-drug cultivar illegal? If the government knows that you can make bio-diesel with it, and that you can use it for everything, then the government loses control over a lot of industries.

It was made illegal because many of the robber barons of the past owned massive amounts of forests and trees were just easier to clear cut than it was to farm hemp. They needed to get hemp outlawed so the demand for trees could be increased. Paper was the main reason. Before hemp was outlawed much of the paper in the US was hemp. The first two copies of the declaration of independence were hemp paper. As far as the drug cultivar being outlawed, well you can just blame big pharma on that one.

You can make bio-diesel from just about any plant matter. You can also make wood alcohol which is basically non consumable moonshine from wood chips and many other plants including hemp.

Here's some more hemp facts that many people don't know. You can harvest hemp 4 - 6 times a year under good conditions and even up north you can harvest it at least 2 times. One acre of hemp produces as much cellulose fiber pulp as 4.1 acres of trees. Tree can only be harvested every 20 years or so. Hemp eats way more carbon dioxide and produces 4 times more oxygen than trees.

You can eat shelled hemp seeds or press the oil out of it for cooking and feed the pressed material to your livestock. Shelled hemp seeds contain all the protein, amino acids, and vitamins that humans need to live. You could completely sustain life on just hemp seeds alone if you had to.

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The more I learn about this, the more amazed I am. I knew about the land barons and robber barons and the Manifest Destiny that pushed us westward (taking land illegally), but I didn't know about all of the seeds.

BTW, the way the government took illegal land, was that they removed weapons from the Native Americans.

WarminIndy

While in many ways it wouldn't surprise me if this was true; I find it difficult to trust the source. Alex Jones is just a step above tabloid journalism for me. Sometimes the things he says seem to have merit while at other times it seems like he's just pitching whatever wild story he has to get ratings.

The first time I heard of Alex Jones was probably in 2005. I saw that he presented videos, but if you wanted to know what was in the videos you had to buy them. This is the first time I saw Prison Planet.

After watching his so-called "infiltration" into the ceremony of the big owl...I could tell immediately that he had manufactured it.

Just curious, but what makes you think he manufactured the Bohemian Grove footage?

Because he certainly didn't manufacture this reaction from David Gergen, a known Bohemian Grove member.

reply to post by therealguyfawkes


People are cautious about believing Alex Jones because he is known to sensationalize every day normal things into whatever nonsense he wishes to manufacture.

Lets take FEMA coffins for instance. These things are actually grave liners used in several states where ground subsidence is an issue so therefore they are required to use something watertight in order to preserve the interned. Alex Jones reported them as being for FEMA to stack bodies in which is just nonsense.

Of course a simple google search would have sourced the correct information but instead he chose to manufacture a doom and gloom story around these grave liners. Here's where they are made... vantageproducts.com...


The bohemian grove stuff might be real or it might be bogus who knows. I know one thing for sure, I'd be more likely to believe somebody with more credibility than Alex Jones.

therealguyfawkes

WarminIndy

While in many ways it wouldn't surprise me if this was true; I find it difficult to trust the source. Alex Jones is just a step above tabloid journalism for me. Sometimes the things he says seem to have merit while at other times it seems like he's just pitching whatever wild story he has to get ratings.

The first time I heard of Alex Jones was probably in 2005. I saw that he presented videos, but if you wanted to know what was in the videos you had to buy them. This is the first time I saw Prison Planet.

After watching his so-called "infiltration" into the ceremony of the big owl...I could tell immediately that he had manufactured it.

Just curious, but what makes you think he manufactured the Bohemian Grove footage?

Because he certainly didn't manufacture this reaction from David Gergen, a known Bohemian Grove member.

Because I'm a filmmaker. That's what I was trained for.

There are some things we do recognize as manufactured in other people's work.

reply to post by WarminIndy

Really? I thought you were a history student?

TKDRL
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Really? I thought you were a history student?

I went to college first for history. Then after some time still wanting to be something more, I went to film school. I had spent several years between writing plays and screenplays, and even articles about film.

I didn't say I was famous, I have several very short films, of which won film contests. But I have published film articles.

Right now, it's on pause because of the MS, but I do have several things I'm writing. I am pretty well networked, but I am not a name dropper.

Until this moment passes and I am able to get out there again, you'll see more from me. But yes, I was a history student and a film student. In fact, one of my editing projects was banned in Germany on youtube. I had rights to it, but youtube deleted my account with that project.

Well, meh. Just make another youtube account.

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Ah OK, I thought I remembered you saying you were a history student somewhere. So for those of us that aren't film makers, could you point out those telltale signs of manufactured film?

Hmmm, maybe it would be a better idea to do a thread on it.

TKDRL
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Ah OK, I thought I remembered you saying you were a history student somewhere. So for those of us that aren't film makers, could you point out those telltale signs of manufactured film?

What made it seem manufactured to me was the location in which the owl was at. It was called Mise En Scene, everything the director wanted you to see is in the middle, there is nothing coming in and out from the sides of the screen. Even though Alex Jones says different, what you are focused on is the middle. Of which Alex Jones says he infiltrated. They really had bad acting, you would think if they did this year after year, people would not have to attempt to act. The accent of the speaker is from the 1940s. These people really were putting on some kind of play, but the real Bohemian Grove Cremation of Care ceremony, no, I think not. There's just too much bad acting, the audio is music from the 1940s. So because only one camera happened to catch this Mise En Scene, means the person with the camera knew exactly where to sit at. That's what convinced me, Mise En Scene and one camera just in the right location. If the camera were in any other location, the lighting would have been different.

A person is sitting in the middle of an audience with a camera? And yet cameras were not allowed to be used?

How would Alex Jones be able to get his camera in the right location at the right time to videotape Mise En Scene if he had infiltrated. Explain how he gets the best location for the money shot?

And if it's all male, then why are women cheering in the crowd?

olaru12
If they really were serious about confiscating guns they would stop the sales of guns and ammunition first?

You can still go into any walmart, sportings goods store or pawn shop and buy a gun.

I just bought a nice used glock40.

I'm calling cheeze! This is just part of AJs doom porn scenario.

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To ban everything immediately, would be too obvious as everyone who is a hunter or needs a weapon for self defense would immediately object.

Instead they do it stealthily, first it's fully automatic weapons, then semi-automatics with 15+ rounds, then semi-automatics with 7+ rounds, then they ban new purchases and require registration of current ownership. Then they will ban transfer of ownership by inheritance or resale. DHS are already buying up all the available ammunition while make orders for billions of hollow-point rounds.

Then they'll start on hand weapons, starting by setting limits on maximum rounds, then muzzle velocity. And they'll do the same with ownership transfers.

Don't ask about Operation Fast and Furious which was to supply Mexico with thousands of weapons in order to track the sales. Those weapons ended up killing American police officers.

GoldenBrain71
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Alex Jones reported them as being for FEMA to stack bodies in which is just nonsense.

So where does fema say why they have them, and what are they used for? Why does fema have them in the first place?

First of all, like I usually have to do with ALL threads referencing Alex Jones (mine included), Disclaimer;

If you're going to bash Alex and the Infowars team, do it elsewhere please.

Focus on the topic.

Alex Jones hate mongers are one of the biggest cases of the "Hate the message, attack the messenger" mentalities I've ever seen. Sadly, a lot of folks on ATS do that too. Aren't we here to deny ignorance, or what...?

Now aside from that...

Unregistered guns ought to be a given norm in our society.

Considering how drastic this is slowly, painfully getting...

S'all I'm gonna say on that one.

Cling to them guns, guys. Just do it.

ninepointfive

GoldenBrain71
reply to post by therealguyfawkes

 

Alex Jones reported them as being for FEMA to stack bodies in which is just nonsense.

So where does fema say why they have them, and what are they used for? Why does fema have them in the first place?

They were never for FEMA and FEMA has never claimed owning grave liners. FEMA is not in the business of burying dead people, although I would imagine they have the ability to transport dead bodies from disaster areas to the appropriate places for burial. These grave liners were being staged for shipping to various cemeteries across the country. Alex Jones saw them on the side of some train yards, roads, and other sipping areas and just magically connected the dots stating they were for the supposed FEMA camps. He basically just makes this stuff up to sell his brand of crazy.