Does anyone find it odd that Comet ISON, Is hearsay this, made up that, ect. Except you can not find

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posted on Oct, 23 2013 @ 09:42 PM
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Looks like I copied and pasted your reply Cheesy, Sorry!

It was on fb on the weekend of Sept 17th the weekend them meteors fell everywhere, most were in the US, some in Russia and downsouth.

Man I should be in bed! That was You-tube! Forgive me on that one, have some interesting vid's on them showers though. Just try not to get caught up into them.

Even goes so far to say I Son, son of God! Now if I can find out How this comet got the name I could do some more looking into. Will work on that tomorrow Cheesy too.

Peace
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posted on Oct, 23 2013 @ 09:57 PM
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It bears the name of their night-sky survey program, the International Scientific Optical Network. ISON is a group of observatories in ten countries which have organized to detect, monitor, and track objects in space. The network is managed by the Keldysh Institute of Applied Mathematics, part of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

solarsystem.nasa.gov...



posted on Oct, 23 2013 @ 10:00 PM
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The interesting thing to me about it is that mainstream science does not know anything about comets. They are still calling them giant snowballs for christ sake, LOL.
When was the last time you had a look at what is known about comets?


Why are they acting so strange? Why is all the equipment failing? Why aren't they discussing the gamma rays? The likely connection between comets and plagues. We are experiencing the highest radiation ever combine that with a cosmic level rainstorm of gamma with the shield failing and the sun waking up and you have many reasons to be concerned.
Who is acting strange? All what equipment is failing? What gamma rays? What connection? What "highest radiation", what gamma, what shield failing, what sun waking up?


What is the object in the western sky? That's my question.
The very bright planet after sunset? That's Venus.


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posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 01:02 AM
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Phage
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When was the last time you had a look at what is known about comets?

Have you looked at a middle school science book lately? How much water has been imaged on comets? How big was the impact crater we created? How big was the explosion of impact? Keep calling me crazy bud, but start researching ol' sport!


Who is acting strange?

You, NASA and the world leaders and elite dirtballs. How many bunkers have been built in 10 years?


All what equipment is failing?

The equipment directed to image ISON has failed multiple times. Yes backyard astronomers are getting nice comet porn pics, those aren't the ones I was looking for. I'm not looking for Polaroids.


What gamma rays?

Comets produce dangerous x-rays rays. I misspoke.


What "highest radiation"

The solar system has entered a highly volatile energized cloud, causing changes in other planets atmospheres, and increasing our own exposure to radiation. It's called fluffy! They are warning airline's that they will be facing more radiation, the EPA has just increased safe levels, Pilots and crew have lost hair and gotten skin lesions, which they are blaming on uniforms. Does all the crew wear the same uniforms?


what gamma

See above


what shield failing

The Earth's magnetosphere is leaking, the solar wind penetrates deeper. It's not just weakening... they've seen solar winds burst through recently in latitudes never seen before


what sun waking up?

The sun that shines in our sky!
www.space.com...


The very bright planet after sunset? That's Venus.

NO! The object, I'm referring to is not Venus and if you took off your skeptic glasses for 10 seconds you just might see it yourself. Thousands are reporting it and its not Venus.

I'm not spewing doom porn, just truths.I'm too busy to dig up all the links. Have Fun!
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posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 01:37 AM
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Have you looked at a middle school science book lately? How much water has been imaged on comets? How big was the impact crater we created? How big was the explosion of impact? Keep calling me crazy bud, but start researching ol' sport!
No, Have you?
Quite a lot.
What does the size of an impact crater or "how big the explosion was" have to do with the composition of a comet?
I didn't call you crazy, pal.


You, NASA and the world leaders and elite dirtballs. How many bunkers have been built in 10 years?
I'm not acting strange.
I don't see anything strange about NASA.
I don't know.


The equipment directed to image ISON has failed multiple times.
Which equipment has failed multiple times?


Comets produce dangerous x-rays rays. I misspoke.
Yes, x-ray emissions have been detected from comets. Also from Earth and Mars (all the planets for that matter). There is nothing dangerous about them because they are very low intensity x-rays.


The solar system has entered a highly volatile energized cloud, causing changes in other planets atmospheres, and increasing our own exposure to radiation. It's called fluffy! They are warning airline's that they will be facing more radiation, the EPA has just increased safe levels, Pilots and crew have lost hair and gotten skin lesions, which they are blaming on uniforms. Does all the crew wear the same uniforms?
The Solar System entered the local fluff thousands of years ago.
There is no indication that it has had any affect on other planets or our exposure to radiation.
Who is warning airlines that they will be facing more radiation?
The EPA is proposing an increase in radioactivity level guidelines for water and soil.
What pilots and crew have lost hair and gotten skin lesions?



The Earth's magnetosphere is leaking, the solar wind penetrates deeper. It's not just weakening... they've seen solar winds burst through recently in latitudes never seen before
Perhaps you are talking about the magnetic connections that the MSM likes to call "breaches". The reason they weren't seen before is because there were no instruments to see them.


The sun that shines in our sky!
Yeah, well. It's been a very, very inactive Solar maximum. The Sun seems to have overslept.


NO! The object, I'm referring to is not Venus and if you took off your skeptic glasses for 10 seconds you just might see it yourself. Thousands are reporting it and its not Venus.
Well, Venus is the most noticeable thing. It's very bright.


I'm not spewing doom porn
Right. Just nonsense....and doom porn.


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posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 08:08 AM
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I tend to compress your views into a simple statement: "Comets are the UFOs of outer space."

Let your mind work with that to the best of your abilities. --Need a little help thinking outside of the box within which Science and government has trapped your mind? Visit my crazy thread Rethinking Comets buried in the Skunk Works forum.



posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 09:01 AM
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i read totally different facts about ISON from just about every reputable source there is...

example:

....On Nov. 28 -- Thanksgiving Day, as it turns out -- the comet will pass about 1 million kilometers, or about 621,000 miles, from the sun’s surface.
As it blasts around the sun, traveling 234 miles per second, the comet will be heated to about 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit, hot enough to vaporize rock and metals.


i have read ISON is 3 miles across. is icy-dirt-rock
and is presently sailing along at 45k mph & increasing speed by the minute


one source says as it swings around the Sun the speed will be 436,000 mph... but this above article excerpt says it will be speeding at 234 Miles Per second or faster than 800,000 MPH

all these numbers seem exaggerated to me



ISON will be eye-balled in December morning skies and during nights in January
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posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 10:11 AM
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Phage
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I have an eighth grade science textbook right here... Did I strike a nerve? Were you taught nonsense to cover for nonsense? Attacking me as a doom porn poster who posts nonsense is factually wrong! YOu were out of line fella.

I get it you are too smart and you can't learn anything from me. Your goal is to discredit me with nonsense. Bad news is I have posted all facts no nonsense. Every single thing I have posted has multiple sources. Your condescending tone has exposed you as a know it all.

Funny how you didn't mention the stuff that you no know I was right about... PS I was right about every thing I said! Here is some moar for ya... you think you know it all. I'll gladly help you realize you are very wrong. PS it also appears you could be construed as lazy. I gave you comments and if you knew how to do modern research you would use google and find the answers to all your questions. Rather than waiting for me to come by and share every link... PASS THE POPCORN EINSTEIN!

So onto your big glorious moment of untruths... you said oh fluffy cloud thousands of years this and no proof of that moar moar moar/... Did you stop reading about fluff in 1996?
Oh they didn't have books and google scholar back then? So you couldn't know without all the super modern stuff to test things with... right? ;-)

1998
The Local Bubble, Local Fluff, and Heliosphere
wenku.baidu.com...

Here is my colleague and neighbor... she taught me a thing or two. I encourage you to read what I share rather than just dismiss it as doom porn. PS don't forget to google to backup all my claims. people.bu.edu...

2009
Our solar system is passing through a cloud of interstellar material that shouldn't be there, astronomers say. And now the decades-old Voyager spacecraft have helped solved the mystery.
www.space.com...

2009
The fact that the Fluff is strongly magnetized means that other clouds in the galactic neighborhood could be, too. Eventually, the solar system will run into some of them, and their strong magnetic fields could compress the heliosphere even more than it is compressed now. Additional compression could allow more cosmic rays to reach the inner solar system, possibly affecting terrestrial climate and the ability of astronauts to travel safely through space.
science1.nasa.gov...

September 2013
Weather on Earth might be shifting in part because of human activity, but larger context in which the Earth moves has some trends to deal with as well, according to new research published in Science and summarized by Science Now: "As Earth and the other planets orbit the sun, the solar system itself travels through space. Its slow journey is taking it though a wispy expanse of gas called the Local Interstellar Cloud. Now, astronomers have discovered signs of potential turbulence in the cloud, indicated by a shift in direction of helium atoms that flow into the solar system. If the shift is real and continues for hundreds to thousands of years—a dicey extrapolation—it could be a harbinger of more dramatic changes in our solar system, notes study co-author David McComas of the Southwest Research Institute in San Antonio. ... To detect the wind shift, researchers drew on measurements by 11 spacecraft and satellites that have recorded directly or indirectly the flow of helium atoms into the solar system. Many kinds of atoms infiltrate the heliosphere, but helium is a particularly good tracer for all of them because it is abundant and typically survives in its uncharged, atomic state all the way to Earth’s orbit, [study co-author Priscilla] Frisch says."
news.sciencemag.org...

Do you need moar, moar moar to understand you wrong and out of your league trying to insult me for no reason?

“Though we may have already been inside what is known as the Local Interstellar Cloud for tens or hundreds of thousands of years, scientists have been discussing regional areas, aka “cloudlets”, of variable density that we may have entered into as recently as the 1990′s. For example, see this NASA story from Feb. 2002 or this NASA story from Jan 2003:

Some of those cloudlets might be hundreds of times denser than the local fluff,” says Priscilla Frisch, an astrophysicist at the University of Chicago who studies the local interstellar medium. “If we ran into one, it would compress the Sun’s magnetic field and allow more cosmic rays to penetrate the inner solar system, with unknown effects on climate and life.”
starburstfound.org...

A collection of articles with brief summaries about this phenomenon may be found here: www.susanrennison.com...

Back to updating your dirty snowball comet knowledge:
This should be enough for lesson one but as a bonus watch this video for homework and maybe you will learn how much water has really been found on comets surfaces... a trivial amount and not enough to produce the coma. You'll enjoy minute mark 53 Goodnight!

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edit on 24-10-2013 by research3300 because: Edited because I wanted to be nice



posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 10:35 AM
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Are you in 8th grade?

Why not learn the ropes before coming in and thinking you're Tarzan.





Do you need moar, moar moar to understand you wrong and out of your league trying to insult me for no reason?


Yes I want to now see moar moar moar, Moar of how was Phage insulting you?

I like how entertaining ATS can be.



posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 10:35 AM
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i294.photobucket.com...

BOGOF.
Sorry.
Couldn't resist.
I am going to get banned.



posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 12:00 PM
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here is couple articles on comets and possible connections to the major plagues:

Comets & Contagion
Viruses, Bacteria & Diseases from Space
journalofcosmology.com...

Different theory:
cassiopaea.org...

more speculation:
mb-soft.com...

comets delivering life?
arxiv.org...



posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 01:00 PM
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i have "speculated" repeatedly, here on ATS,(,hi Phlange,,
,,,that
1.Tycho Supernova,,,fact
2. a Piece of that Supernova,,in the form of Anti-Matter,,ie: not enough Mass to go into ignition Phase,,
3. If and big if,,,it aquires enough "debrie",,its Anti Matter,,looking for some,, Protons,, too change too
4. A new,,,,,,Star?,,or Sun???

ohh and that it is travelling with ISON,,,the original piece of Tycho,,,headed this way.
Fact,,were have already experience, shock waves from Tycho,, i think it was 2001?,, could be mistaken,,,on the date.

Me.
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posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 01:14 PM
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Phage
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Explain Bit of a meteor shower? One week in Sept we had over 30+, all it takes is one Bit to hit something as small as a power plant or a city.
The tail of a comet is dust. The meteors from comet tails do not hit the ground, they vaporize high in the atmosphere. We pass through several each year.
stardate.org...

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Nasa says it does.


"Instead of burning up in a flash of light, they will drift gently down to the Earth below," he says.
Don’t expect to notice. The invisible rain of comet dust, if it occurs, would be very slow. It can take months or even years for fine dust to settle out of the high atmosphere.


They also mention this double crossing of the debris is not usual.


When Earth passes through the debris stream, we will encounter two populations of comet dust. One swarm of dust will be following the Comet ISON into the sun. Another swarm will be moving in the opposite direction, pushed away from the sun by solar radiation pressure. The streams will pepper opposite sides of Earth simultaneously.

"In my experience, this kind of double whammy is unprecedented," says Wiegert.


science.nasa.gov...

Historically speaking we are clearly in a time of increased comets and asteroids and fireballs coming into the atmosphere, starting to be a common, not even interesting thing now days.



posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 01:28 PM
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What I find odd is why we have so many threads about ISON, and none about LINEAR or Lovejoy, or any of the other comets currently circulating through the inner solar system.

Presumably, a comet only affects Earth if the tabloid media tell us? That's all I can think ......



posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 01:42 PM
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Maybe the latest filament eruption and the small CMEs will jumpstart the comet when they hit it and it will expand it's coma and tail
It would be nice to have it's size increase a little, it is so small right now that it can't hardly be seen.



posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 02:55 PM
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oz2013
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I wanna know the samething where did it come from and why is it coming at as,


It came from the outer solar system, as virtually all comets do.

It is NOT coming at us. It will be 64,000,000 km (about 40,000,000 miles) away from Earth at its closest approach. In comparison, the planet Venus gets as close to the earth as 38,000,000 km (about 26,000,000 miles).

ISON is doing what many comets do (we know of thousands of comets) and is coming toward the inner solar system as it orbits around the Sun (the Sun's gravity pulls the comet toward the inner solar system). Most comets spend their lives orbiting way out beyond Pluto and never come towards the sun. However, some of those comets get their orbits disturbed through collisions with other comets (or through gravitational interactions with other objects), and the orbit changes so they get pulled in towards the Sun.

The reason why ISON is getting media attention is that when it was first discovered, there was a chance it would become a very bright comet, visible to the eye. Most comets are too dim to be visible to the eye. For example, there are two other comets out there right now that can be seen with binoculars or a small telescope, but not with just your unaided eye.

However, many astronomers now think that ISON will NOT be as bright as originally expected. there is still a chance it will be visible to the unaided eye, but it seems more likely that it will be too dim to ever be seen without binoculars or telescope.



posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 03:22 PM
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"AnyOne Know Where Ison Come from? and How This Comet can Come to our Solar system,Is there any Hystory Record Of it? why this Comet Only get to Our Sun if there is So many Star in space..? some scientist say it will only once, and Ison Will never come back again..so this comet came Very far away From Outer space only to visit us? " thats My Curious..


See this is your problem. The reason you are so obessed with ISON is because your entire existential perspective is severely skewed.

It begins with the notion that the universe revolves around you, or us humans. It´s like watching a bird fly over your house and then asking why the bird flew over your house when there are so many other houses around.

Did it ever occur to you that it was travelling in a random direction and just happened to be on a course that crosses our solar system.

There is nothing out of the ordinairy here and without the people that you hink are hiding something you probably wouldn´t even have heard of ISON at this point.

Get over your obsession.
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posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 04:35 PM
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cheesy
...AnyOne Know Where Ison Come from? and How This Comet can Come to our Solar system,Is there any Hystory Record Of it? why this Comet Only get to Our Sun if there is So many Star in space..?


ISON came from our own solar system. All comets inside our solar system come from our inside own solar system (as far as we know). They don't come from elsewhere.

Comets come from the outer parts of the solar system, way past Pluto. They have been out there for 5 billion years, endlessly orbiting our sun. Comets are thought to be stuff left over from the beginning of the solar system. The solar system was once a cloud of gas, dust, and ice. The stuff inside that cloud started collecting together into clumps, which eventually formed the Sun, planets, and Moons. The stuff left over became asteroids and comets.

Most comets will never come anywhere near the inner solar system and the Sun. They will continue to orbit out past Pluto and Neptune for billions of more years. However, every so often, the orbits of one of those comets out there changes (through a collision or gravity of another object) and the comet's obit makes it head toward the inner solar system -- near earth and the Sun. Sometimes these comets crash into the Sun. We know of a few every year that do this. Sometimes their orbit brings it close to the sun before heading out again.

Some of these comets that come into the inner solar system have relatively small orbits that keeps bringing them back toward the sun every few decades. Some have long orbits that only return every 200 years or so. so even longer than that.

ISON may end up not being special at all. The only reason why it made news is because it was thought it might be a bright comet. However, it may just end up being just another comet so dim that it can only be seen with a telescope or binoculars. There are almost always comets in the sky all the time that can be seen with a small telescope or binoculars. There are two others right now -- comet 2P/Encke and Comet C/2013 R1 Lovejoy.

So, ISON may end up being nothing special at all -- just another comet of the thousands that we know about.

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posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 05:26 PM
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AndyMayhew
What I find odd is why we have so many threads about ISON, and none about LINEAR or Lovejoy, or any of the other comets currently circulating through the inner solar system.

Presumably, a comet only affects Earth if the tabloid media tell us? That's all I can think ......



It is odd isn't it?

Many comets are discovered all the time. But the only ones that seem to make people post threads about them, are the ones in the news, tabloids, etc.

I mean, I'm not seeing any threads about 285P/LINEAR, or 169/NEAT on how they are going to destroy the Earth, or how they are acting strange, or how NASA is hiding secrets about them, or equipment failing on them.......or any of these comets:

List Of Periodic Comets

Or any of these......

List Of Non-Periodic Comets

Just the ones that the media wants to talk about, and then we get all sorts of wild claims by people (especially those that do not seem to be versed in astronomy).

Or maybe it's just normal behavior of humans.



posted on Oct, 24 2013 @ 05:39 PM
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Phage
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It bears the name of their night-sky survey program, the International Scientific Optical Network. ISON is a group of observatories in ten countries which have organized to detect, monitor, and track objects in space. The network is managed by the Keldysh Institute of Applied Mathematics, part of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

solarsystem.nasa.gov...



Thanks for the info Phage, and your time!

So it would seem that there would be no actual way to trace a comet back into time. Most of the names are new?





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