reply to post by theantediluvian
Wow, it's going to be a long day if I have to provide you with images and videos and speeches from your side about Obama the messiah.
Geesh, it's like you embrace the "metaphor" then say "it's just a metaphor". Do you think Chris Matthews was being sexually attracted to Obama
to cause the tingling up his legs?
BTW, I was watching that when he said it...
First...epiphany is solely defined as a revelation. I've had an epiphany, Obama isn't the messiah and I shouldn't vote for him. But when you use
the word epiphany with light coming through a window, then it hearkens back to a religious experience.
Definition of epiphany...
capitalized : 1:January 6 observed as a church festival in commemoration of the coming of the Magi as the first manifestation of Christ to the
Gentiles or in the Eastern Church in commemoration of the baptism of Christ
2 : an appearance or manifestation especially of a divine being
3 a (1) : a usually sudden manifestation or perception of the essential nature or meaning of something (2) : an intuitive grasp of reality through
something (as an event) usually simple and striking (3) : an illuminating discovery, realization, or disclosure b : a revealing scene or moment
As the images of Obama were presented as a messiah-type figure, then the definition arises as number 2. Yes, he WAS presented as a Messiah. Therefore,
you were encouraged to allow the appearance of a divine being, of which you should vote for.
Had he never been presented as a messiah, then number 3 would apply. But still, within the definition of 3, is a manifestation of the essential nature
or meaning. Hmm, so he said you would have a manifestation of the meaning to vote for him.
As he was presented with the essential nature of a messiah, then by definition of epiphany alone, throws it back to a religious experience. So why
would Obama choose to use the word epiphany with the iconography associated with religious imagery, instead of just saying realization?
He chose, at a time when he was presented as a messiah, to use the word epiphany with all its religious connotation and imagery. He reinforced this
idea that he was a messiah.
Would you care for me to post every picture that reinforces this? There's not enough time.
And he goes on to say in another speech, "contrary to public belief, I was not born in Bethlehem in a manger, I was born in a galaxy far, far away".
Wait just a second, if the held belief was that he was a messiah, that he then has to make a joke about, wouldn't that suggest to you that people
believed it? And how would they arrive at that belief in the first place? From him. Not Evan Thomas.
At the 2012 Soul Train Awards, Jamie Foxx says this....
"It's like church over here. It's like church in here. First of all, give an honor to
God and our lord and savior Barack Obama."
Was he joking when he said that?
It was televised when he said this. Imagine that, a celebrity endorsement of Obama as messiah. And you say to us, it's a metaphor?
And since you are blaming conservatives...here's the most liberal out there
Oh my, the quasi-Socialist liberal magazine even says the same thing I am telling you. I am a conservative, but even if the ultra-liberals can see it,
then why can't you admit it.
From Jonathan Stein in 2008...
Barack Obama has a messiah complex and no one will convince me otherwise.
You don't have to admit it if a conservative charges it, but what about liberals? Will you deny this liberal told you so? Let's talk a little bit
about how this liberal arrived at the same conclusion that conservatives did when it came to Obama.