reply to post by buster2010
And why not Zionism? In fact, the Jews were never given any citizen rights in any European country until the 1800s anyway. The citizenship rights
given before WWII were also taken away by the Nazis. So if you have a group of people...by the way, the Roma in most of Europe also do not have
citizenship rights today, then what does a group of people do?
Can we blame them for wanting a home, after all, they weren't allowed to be citizens in Europe anyway. That goes back a long time found throughout
various nations' laws before the Middle Ages. There is simply too much documentation to provide here. But since the Jews were not wanted in Europe
and laws were passed against them, so who can blame them for wanting a home?
The pogroms in Europe meant they were not welcome and could not stay. But who is land grabbing? The Jews in Palestine that were there since before 70
AD? Even the Muslims know the Jews were in Jerusalem when they invaded 600 plus years later. But what the Muslims did, was force those Jews and
Christians in Jerusalem to become Muslim, and then declared that Palestine was now an Islamic state. But the Druze prove otherwise, as the Druze still
maintain Jewish identity in secret, while proclaiming Islam outwardly.
Islam forced Arab language and customs onto Palestine, and guess what, Hungary would still be Arab if not for Sigismund of Hungary and Romania would
be Arab if not for Vlad Tepes. But through the forcing of Arab language and culture onto a group of people, the Arabs then decreed that they were now
Arab, and had nothing to do with who the original ancestors were of the people. Palestine was Jewish and Christian pre-Islamic invasion, then suddenly
AFTER the Islamic invasion, Jews no longer existed in Palestine? They did exist, but through forced assimilation, Islam stole the land from Jews and
Christians. So the Zionists are not stealing land from Palestenians, rather, they are moving back to the original land of their ancestors, of which
many Palestenians are of Jewish and Christian descent, but cannot say that. They know they are, but cannot say it.
Use Hungary and Romania as the examples of what could happen. Sigismund and Vlad Tepes reclaimed their countries back, so why are the Jews not allowed
to reclaim their land either? Islam and Arab identity was forced onto Palestine, they know it and we know it. So yes, it is a fight from Islam to
maintain Arab identity in an area they know they have no right to be in, in the first place. And if they had a right, then Hungary and Romania should
be Arab today.
And just how did Europe almost become Arabized? The battle that prevented them from entering Paris. If Paris had fallen, the rest of Europe would be
Islamic. So why do people have a problem with Jews and Zionism, but not a problem with the Arabs invading Europe all the way to Paris?
Look at what could have happened and then ask yourself why the Jews have no right to a homeland taken away from them in the first place. Christians,
it happened to your ancestors too in Jerusalem and Palestine, so what is the problem? Your ancestors almost lost Europe, they did lose 12 European
countries to Islam, of which they had to fight to get back. So what's the real problem with Zionism? If the Christians can fight back, then why
can't the Jews? Are we being self-centered? Are we applying a world standard for our actions that we say they are not allowed to do?
Really think about this, what would have happened if Paris did fall. You and I would not be here on the internet to discuss it. We would not have
Christian identity and certainly the French would not have French identity or speak French any more, France would be Arab, have Arab culture and
language and be called Arab, just as what happened to Palestine. Really take a look at history before saying the Jews have no right to Zionism.
It really is a hypocritical stance.