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Luke 13 There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices.
2 And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?
3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?
5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
6 He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none.
7 Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground?
8 And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it:
9 And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.
John 9 And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth.
2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?
3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.
Abortionists, Liberals, Democrats, Godless heathens, Atheists, they all use these poor unfortunate persons as evidence that God is cruel and non-existent, and that not all life is worth living.
Satan it is everywehere on Earth these days,and his victory it is like all most done,only in the eleventh hour his defeat will be seen,only he don't know that,because they do not have to feel that.
Abortionists, Liberals, Democrats, Godless heathens, Atheists, they all use these poor unfortunate persons as evidence that God is cruel and non-existent, and that not all life is worth living.
They are the very mouths of Satan himself.
sikko45
reply to post by FreeMason
what a question...and of course it depends on what you consider currency for value...like i like money...so most life has no value in that sense..now if i use love for currency..all life is priceless..ya dig?edit on 21-10-2013 by sikko45 because: spelling
Aphorism
reply to post by FreeMason
Abortionists, Liberals, Democrats, Godless heathens, Atheists, they all use these poor unfortunate persons as evidence that God is cruel and non-existent, and that not all life is worth living.
Then why do you call them poor and unfortunate? How of little worth they must be to deserve such a distinction.
God cannot be both cruel and non-existent. Something that does not exist cannot be cruel.
Because the unGodly will use a measurement that inevitably leads them to the conclusion life is worthless. I know, I used to be one of these people, if I lost a leg I'd rather die, because that's how worthless it was to me.
I've since grown in my capacity to understand that in the eyes of the Eternal Father who can heal anyone, even from our perception of death, Life has much greater worth than we can imagine, and Jesus explains over and over in many ways just how more valuable life really is.
AfterInfinity
reply to post by FreeMason
Because the unGodly will use a measurement that inevitably leads them to the conclusion life is worthless. I know, I used to be one of these people, if I lost a leg I'd rather die, because that's how worthless it was to me.
I don't need a god to ascribe meaning to life, nor to recognize its significance.
I've since grown in my capacity to understand that in the eyes of the Eternal Father who can heal anyone, even from our perception of death, Life has much greater worth than we can imagine, and Jesus explains over and over in many ways just how more valuable life really is.
So you're saying that without God, you would view life as worthless? This is just another facet of that recurring issue: if God is the source of our good behavior, that means we are born evil and corrupt.
Is that what you believe?
edit on 21-10-2013 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)
There is hardly any other way to describe them in contemporary language. You can't fault me for our language not having the color blue when I try to describe the color of the sky to you.
I guess you don't think in terms of logical progression like I do...
God is cruel, therefore God cannot exist. If I prove God is cruel, then I disprove the existence of any God. God is cruel because he lets babies die.
See?
No of course not because you're more interested in arguing semantics than the worth of the statements made.
I don't need another Atheist telling me how they have the same morals as me without a God, because that's just intellectual dishonesty.
Without a God, and an objective reality there is absolutely NOTHING. If you cease to exist when you die then you never existed.
Period.
Take your philosophical views elsewhere this is a discussion on what Jesus said, not what you think.