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boymonkey74
reply to post by SearchLightsInc
Like I said If everyone donates their organs there will be enough for all and this type of crime will be a thing of the past, simple economics. Also the right thing to do
stumason
Dianec
Maybe I need to check the box on my license that says I will donate organs should I die. I mean is it truly this hard to get them from the dying? I've known about this for a long time but to see them intercept this is miraculous. Just like another poster said - how much lower can people sink?
I think everyone should be automatically assumed to give consent, not the other way around. Thing is, while everyone is indignant about this particular example, should you suggest that people automatically give up their organs upon death unless stated, they get in an uproar over that as well. This policy has been touted in the UK before and is regularly beaten down by religious groups and selfish wierdo's, which is exactly why we have a shortage of organs and why this horrible practice has sprung up.
We could end this overnight with presumed consent.
For the record, my younger brother is a transplant recipient and he had to wait 5 years to get a kidney. With 500,000 people dying in the UK every year and with only 8,000 people on the transplant list, this could be easily sorted even when you remove those who have died and left organs unsuitable for transplant. As it happens though, less than 1,000 potential donors are found every year due to the extremely low uptake of voluntary organ donation..
DaRAGE
As if you wouldn't do it to save your own child!
Xaphan
DaRAGE
As if you wouldn't do it to save your own child!
Agreed. Anybody who says they wouldn't is either a liar or has too many morals. Yes, there is such a thing as having too many morals. Hell, I'd even do it to save an immediate family member.
Like it or not our species evolved to look out for family members first, not strangers. Sometimes nasty and unethical things have to be done to help those we love.
Char-Lee
My God you would have another child killed for their organs to save yours? i can't even believe someone would think such a thing besides say it openly. You should give your own organs to your child. Yes someone elses child is as precious as my own!
Xaphan
DaRAGE
As if you wouldn't do it to save your own child!
Agreed. Anybody who says they wouldn't is either a liar or has too many morals. Yes, there is such a thing as having too many morals. Hell, I'd even do it to save an immediate family member.
Like it or not our species evolved to look out for family members first, not strangers. Sometimes nasty and unethical things have to be done to help those we love.
Bassago
No we're not liars or too moral. Perhaps we're just truly human where others are "sub" human.
There is war, violence and many things that sometimes we must take part in. Transplant theft, exploitation and virtual cannibalism isn't one of them. If you really feel this way I pity you.
EllaMarina
I hope I'm correct in assuming that those who claim that 'any parent would do the same for their kids' are only referring to merely accepting an organ that happened to be obtained by shady means, rather than condoning the actual murders.
I have to assume that. ATS couldn't seriously have otherwise-fine users who look upon living kids as sacks of organs to be ordered like a dish at a restaurant, at the snap of a desperate finger.
Bisman
well is there something wrong with the uk's health system that makes this a more convenient thing to do?
Char-Lee
DaRAGE
As if you wouldn't do it to save your own child!
The parents don't probably even know about it though. They have probably just gone to some back water medical people who said they have access to organs.
Though a 50% rise year on year is very troubling isn't it?edit on 20-10-2013 by DaRAGE because: (no reason given)
My God you would have another child killed for their organs to save yours? i can't even believe someone would think such a thing besides say it openly. You should give your own organs to your child. Yes someone elses child is as precious as my own!
I think it is immoral to a degree
NavyDoc
BlubberyConspiracy
Goes to show you how irresponsible the whole system is. Until corporate hysteria is removed form the entire complex, the technology necessary to avoid this kind of sickness won't come or last long if it does.
Nothing should come at the cost of another human being against that person's will. ]
I agree with that statement completely. I'm a bit curious though, would you extend that philosophy to welfare? Socialized medicine? After all, these programs give to one person against many other people's will. Although not to the extreme of removing an organ, certainly, they certainly have a similar basic philosophical point: to take from one by force to give to another.