BC File Sharing website ISOHUNT to pay Hollywood 110 Million

reply to post by TKDRL


Agreed. Not only do I download all the stuff I buy, I will sign up for their fan club just to give them that extra support.

Buble fan club member and proud of it.

TKDRL
reply to post by CardiffGiant

 

It's quite simple. If a band puts out good music, I want them to continue putting out good music. They will not do so if they are not making money, so I invest money into them somehow. If they have a way to make direct donations, I go that route, if I am able to, go see their live shows they play in my area. Same for movies, software, prettymuch anything. I want people that put out good stuff to make money, I want people that put out crap to go broke, and go away.

making money and making gazillions is different. there are some seriously talented musicians out there that make money... enough to put out more tunes but not enough to buy sports teams and all kinds of crazy stuff like that.
that said. the amount of money made has little to do with the quality of the music that one puts out.
if making money is one of the main reasons a musician puts out music then chances are its not good music. my opinion anyway.
i can almost guarantee that my musical tastes do not line up with 99.9% of the people on this board also.

i think a musicians main revenue stream comes from live shows and merchandise anyway.
more often than not the contracts the are stupid enough to sign does not allow them long money from actual sales. thats why it does not bother me not to buy the music.
another reason is 99% of music put out these days basically sucks and im not gonna go pay those prices for stuff put out on vinyl in 65 then remastered digitally 40 years later and 20 years after the artist has died.

reply to post by CardiffGiant


You make a lot of good points. Most of the music I listen to, is from more indie types. They seem to make enough so that they don't gotta work regular 9-5 jobs, but they aren't living the mainstream popstar rich life by any stretch. Ozzy, Hatebreed and Megadeth are the only ones that people recognize regularly, and that might be making some big bucks. I know Ozzy is, not too sure about Hatebreed and Megadeth.

reply to post by TKDRL



bottom line is no matter what people think about downloading vs buying, most artist main source of revenue stream is live shows and merchandise. actual cd or digital sales line the pockets of the execs.
phish is the largest touring band of all time. they killed it with revenue from live shows. they did not throw a fit if people recorded their shows.
some bands encourage people to record and distribute because they know the fans will go to live shows and buuy merchandise.
radiohead did very well when they put their album online and let people pay what they felt was fair.

to the musicians that actually care about people hearing the tunes it does not bother them.
they may not love it but they dont pull a metallica about it either.

in the start musicians want to play music. they want people to listen to their stuff and of course the money is a great plus but along the way a lot of musicians lose site of the music and care more about the money.

my favorite artist recorded for 40 years. after his 1st album he produced and distributed all his own stuff. he kept control of his own masters. he cared more about the music.
just sayin

when tom cruise is making 60 million a film(not just up front salary) im not too worried if one of his films get pirated. i just dont worry about it.

CardiffGiant
reply to post by TKDRL

 

bottom line is no matter what people think about downloading vs buying, most artist main source of revenue stream is live shows and merchandise. actual cd or digital sales line the pockets of the execs.

One of the big ones who make money from this is the copyright trolls. They are a huge business. And their business model is take to take tons of money and make the original product worse for legit customers with drm's, unskipable "you wouldn't download a car" etc. kind of nonsense. And for the record I would absolutely download a car

reply to post by PsykoOps

Haha if I could download a car, there would be a viper in my garage

On second thought, what's the point. Unless I could download gasoline too lol, would just be sitting there.

wow

If you want to TRY software before you purchase it, 99% of the time there is a DEMO license with full features.

Going through a torrent site and downloading it ILLEGALLY shouldn't be illegal?!?! and thats copyright trolling?

you download their illegally modified file, they log your IP/gps, they send you a nice email stating 'we know where you live and what you stole, settle for $x or face the wrath of the legal system' and you Pay $X. the little girl who got sued by the riaa was one of the few people needed to set the example for the 'settle or else' emails to convert to $.

Now some people here really need to get a clue. If you're afraid of getting in trouble downloading illegally modified software, stop making up reasons why it should be OK because it's not and if you get in trouble no one is to blame but yourself, not the evil entertainment industry.

Sorry mr police officer, the lock was slightly modified to just let me right in, I had no idea its still breaking and entering and you're just B&E trolling, man.

reply to post by christoph


Then I just tell them to blow me because I am not in the US. Some stuff has good demos, but a lot is just crippled crapware. If it's a full demo, it's fine. Most software companies want to charge more than a computer, and I am simply not paying those ridiculous prices at all. Adobe comes to mind, would never pay the prices they ask. Zbrush was reasonable, getting pricey now though. Love their free upgrades.

And FYI, downloading isn't illegal, uploading is.

reply to post by christoph


Just because it's a law is not an excuse. There has been a ton of bad laws in the past. Like slavery.

reply to post by boncho

sucks.

I dont get the mentality.

Do they REALLY think that they even made a scratch in this sort of activity...?

HAHAHA

Yes, the worlds BILLIONS of people will not use conventional knowledge to just put something else up as useful, if not more...

Wait until they figure out how to get satellites into orbit and become their own ISP....\

And holly wood better watch out for increasingly better quality 3d animation. Soon people will make block buster movies in their basements which will cost nothing more than the electricity to run the computer, the cost of the program, if they dont just download it for free, and time.....

Profit in entertainment is a lost cause......

reply to post by christoph


i just go by my own moral compass on this topic. i dont upload and i dont seed anything. in my opinion if it is ok to buy a dvd and then watch it for a bit ad sell it to a resale exchange place to have it purchased and then sold at a garage sale then i can dowload something someone wants to share.

the library rents out dvd's for free.

if johnny wants to buy a copy of iron man 3 from a resale shop and then share it, i am going to enjoy. hell how do i know it wasnt a web rip? something he paid for legally through ppv or netflix or amazon video? i dont ask questions.

its ok for johnny to purchase iron man 3 on ppv and have 15 people at his house to watch it bit its not ok for me to download it if he decides to share it? why?
cause you say so. the riaa. the little fbi warning tag at the start of the movie?
nah, i dont really agree with those rules. i was not consulted on them and i refuse to obey the 'rules' the guys in the shadows decided to lay on me. nobody is suffering any physical damage from it. no pain and suffering so i feel like i am doing nothing wrong.

i love how they claim lost profits too. a download of a movie does not equal loss of sales. its not tit for tat. just cause a guy downloads a movie does not mean he did that instead of buying it. who said he was going to buy it anyway? maybe he downloads iron man 3 for free but buys another one. we cant be sure.
i do know i dont feel bad for downloading avatar when it grossed almost 2 billion off of ticket sales alone. then we have merchandise and such. dont feel bad about jack reacher when mr tom cruise gets 60 million. not a bit. the studios and actors are doing just fine. this 'piracy' is nothing new anyway. its been going on for decades.
i didnt hear a big fuss when people set up two vcr's and copied a rented tape.
then the companies like sony and panasonic come out with dual vcr's. im sure they didnt think people were copying home movies only.

these pc's are manufactured with software and hardware that can rip, compress, and burn a movie. its so convenient that you can buy blank media at the same place as you get the pc and the dvd. also pretty convenient you can get a tablet or phone or personal media device to store and play these files.
pretty convenient that you have tons of cloud storage sites that offer tens or even hundreds of gigs of storage space.
for what? totally 'legal' home movies. sure buddy.
these companies are all in bed together and know exactly what is going on. they encourage it as far as i am concerned.

if sony 'loses a sale' on some dvd title they more than make up for it in a vaio laptop or a stack of blank dual layer dvd's. maybe even a ps3 with 300 gigs of storage space that can read all sorts of media formats.

you dont have to prove you legally purchased media to put it on 'most' media players, phones, tablets, cloud services, etc.
people not buying cd's are downloading them and storing them on their $300 ipod touch or burning them on the blank media they paid for or they are streaming it with some media service they paid for.

all you have to do is open your eyes.

As much as I hate to say it, bittorrent is a socialistic concept. Collectivism and wealth redistribution. We all love free stuff but all that free stuff did originally cost money.

Funny enough, Hollywood may just be reaping what they sowed. We all know they're a bunch of socialists at heart. And have been for ages.