The Tea Party...Why are they so Dangerous?

Nice... an insult in the very first post... unless, of course, I'm mistaken, and there's some other use of the term "nutcases". Classy.

They aren't villians, but they're a threat to both the old establishment, and the new collectivists.

They actually want to give power back to the people!

...individuals, not the mob.

reply to post by AngryCymraeg

So who's the Democrat equivalent of Michelle "bats in the belfry" Bachmann?

Nancy "Bats in the Belfry" Pelosi exceeds your criteria.

See ya,
Milt

reply to post by AlienScience

Which rights have they been denied?

How about the IRS teaming up with other Federal Agencies to deny Tax status?

Would you not agree in America that legal groups should be allowed to assemble?

No tax ID you can't get insurance. No insurance, no large events.

The IRS already apologized. They admitted interfering with these groups.

I just don't trust the Tea Party....as always follow the money...who funds the TP

www.usnews.com...

oh...no agenda there huh?

Do you honestly think the Koch bros care about the TP platform? I don't...

imo they are the epitome of corporate fascist and they have chumped out the TP for their own ends.

AngryCymraeg

BenReclused
reply to post by buster2010

 

The reason why some people think they are dangerous is because of the nutcases they vote into office.

A lot of us feel that Democrats "are dangerous" for the same reason.

See ya,
Milt

So who's the Democrat equivalent of Michelle "bats in the belfry" Bachmann?

Sheila Jackson Lee.

reply to post by whyamIhere


I've supported the Tea Party for quite some time. I've attended rallies. I agree with the premise they(we) subscribe to.

I used to be a republican, but left when I saw how the party was going.

My guess is that the Tea Party earns so much vitriol because they are so on target and espouse more freedoms than government oversight.

Whatever the Tea Party started as they made one terrible mistake. They had no conrol over their message and no control over their members. So every nut bag around declared themselves a member of the Tea Party and brought whatever crazy message they had and made it public under the Tea Party banner. Now you have the people who were the loudest quickly become the face of the Tea Party and they are the ones making racist, sexist and saying completely nutty things every time they step in front of a microphone. This of course is popular with some fringe groups but, very distasteful to the American public in general. As public opinion quickly turned on the Tea Party so did the GOP who saw the entire party being painted as backwards and out of touch with Amrerican because of this small vocal group. The Tea Party of course pushed back and went all in with the shut down figuring they had been betrayed by the people and the party. After all if you know your party is going to be swept out of office in the next election you really have nothing to lose. And making the GOP and the American people pay for turning their backs on them is all they have left. It a lesson on being able to control your message and membership.

BenReclused
reply to post by AngryCymraeg

 

So who's the Democrat equivalent of Michelle "bats in the belfry" Bachmann?

Nancy "Bats in the Belfry" Pelosi exceeds your criteria.

See ya,
Milt

Sorry but when it comes to Queen of the nutcases Bachmann takes the cake.

marg6043
reply to post by Wrabbit2000

 

Did I misunderstood dawel, because I agree with him only because Palin was one of those that infiltrated the Tea party and turned into caca.

If that post mean that those two are to pair up for election, I will only say HELL NO. he,he.

Well, technically....Palin got her 'vote-out' along side McCain, eh? That just leaves Bachmann as a sitting office holder to help out with a few votes ....against.

beezzer
reply to post by whyamIhere

 

I've supported the Tea Party for quite some time. I've attended rallies. I agree with the premise they(we) subscribe to.

I used to be a republican, but left when I saw how the party was going.

My guess is that the Tea Party earns so much vitriol because they are so on target and espouse more freedoms than government oversight.

what scares me is the total lack of understanding the core problem to debt,
and what happens when a expansive monetary system is suddenly stopped from expansion,

if you DONT increase the debt, you crash the economy,
this monetary system will CRASH if debt is not perpetually increased,
it is part of the design of the monetary system, and stopping the debt celing shows a severe lack of understanding the consiqences of deflation.

this makes the tea party dangerous,
a lack of solid under standing of the debt dynamics,
a lack of understanding of what default would do,

AN IDEALOGICAL CRUSADE THAT WOULD DO THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT IS INTENDED.

i study complex systems for fun, but here is a video that will explain WHY the debt celing debate is a RED HEARING

please watch, please


www.youtube.com...=1537

once you understand how the debt racket truly works,
you will understand that the "ceiling debate" was suicide by consent.

the tea party bought the world to within 1 day of Armageddon!!!
and they dont even realise why

xploder

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


Ok, thanks, sometimes I can not find the difference between sarcasm and seriousness when it comes to politics this days.

reply to post by XPLodER


Ok. I rode the short bus to ATS today.

Please tell me how being in debt is better than not being in debt.

Really.

reply to post by XPLodER


You mean the economic scam most be perpetuated for the common good even if our nation keep sinking into debt oblivion. Right? I got it now. You know you can put a band aid on a wound for so long until the gaping hole causes death by untreated injury. Totally preventable but ignored.

beezzer
reply to post by XPLodER

 

Ok. I rode the short bus to ATS today.

Please tell me how being in debt is better than not being in debt.

Really.

I was sitting here wondering the same thing.

I have been broke....I have had money.

Having money seemed like a lot more fun.

reply to post by XPLodER


So because we are being duped further and further into debt, it is all good because it grows the economy? But we shouldn't fix this deception because it will break the economy? Armageddon is a pretty strong word for what would happen if the economy had a contraction, especially since you have no idea what will happen if it does. I do know one thing though, the economy that would grow out of the result of our economy crashing would be much stronger and healthier than the one we have now.

Representative government has fallen out of favor with the two political parties. Anything or anyone who goes against the two party system or makes waves will be demonized.

From what I have read these nut cases (names given to elected officials) are going through their emails and voting as per the constituents demand. Supposed to be the way things work in a representative government IMO.

Agree or disagree if they are voting as the people who sent them to the Congress or the Senate then maybe you might want to rethink the way government is supposed to work.

Yep, can't have that when they have an agenda to move forward... Obamacare might have worked better if the thing would have been read first and everyone concerned got a few page brief on what was being proposed, No? Now that it is in the open they almost shut the government down to defund it. The Tea Party seems to be getting the blame for trying to defund Obamacare; OK but it appears many want it done away with.. If you believe the news reports.

There seems to be those who prefer government by decree, the old "one man" and his cronies know best for the population.... Certainly been used before.. Even Rome abolished their Senate for a little one man knows best doctrine...

Hopefully Crazy old Ron Paul will live long enough to see some of his dire predictions come true just so he can say, "I warned you and told you so". If not then he was wrong or didn't live long enough.

In another 3 months the whole budget thing will start over so we will get to see how far the old proverbial can is kicked once again. Maybe the doom porn people are wrong, maybe they are right... time will tell.

I do not have a crystal ball so we will have to wait until the mid-term elections to see what side will gain or lose Reps. Then we can complain some more depending on one's outlook.

Myself, I prefer Reps who represent their Constituents but I am sure there are those who would disagree and want the rule by decree thing... Plenty of articles on the internet about that very thing with "thumbs up" no less.

reply to post by buster2010

Sorry but when it comes to Queen of the nutcases Bachmann takes the cake.

There's no need to apologize. Your defense, though unfounded, of Mrs. Pelosi was quite predictable.

See ya,
Milt

reply to post by MrSpad


You sound a lot like a control freak to me.

reply to post by XPLodER


Please tell me how having a "rich country" full of poor individuals is a good thing? Because that is the end result.....

beezzer
reply to post by XPLodER

 

Ok. I rode the short bus to ATS today.

Please tell me how being in debt is better than not being in debt.

Really.

its not,

but until you can articulate the current system,
and understand the consiqences of your actions "under the current system"
you will be simply against debt, without understanding that this "system"
IS THE CAUSE of debt.

and simply stopping debt wont stop the system,
it will crash it.

1.you have a debt based system (fed)
2. if debt expansion ever stops (under the current system) the entire currency collapses
3.this means if you stop debt expansion (even for a week) the country will collapse

the truth is this,
if you took all the cash in the us and payed off all the DEBT and LOANS,
you would still be in debt, but you would have no money AT ALL,
its imposable to "grow the economy" and pay the debt and pay the interest,
with the existing money supply,

so without increasing debt, the loans and interest will be payed,
but there would be "no NEW money" for anyone in the usa to use as capital to start businesses,

thing is a ponzy scheme always collapses when there are no new "marks"
or in this case no new money.

the problem is so complex thinking that, most blame the wrong factor,
and in the case of the tea party, they blamed the debt amount,
NOT THE SYSTEM THAT DEMANDS EVER MORE DEBT to sustain itself.

xploder