Hilary Clinton Doesn't Stand A Chance Against Ted Cruz

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posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 12:35 PM
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This is my personal opinion of course, but after watching him speak before yet another last minute budget deal last night, I'd say the Democrats are gonna have a major problem on their hands come 2016.




Speaking for the "American people," Cruz said the Senate deal "embodies everything that frustrates" them about the "Washington establishment." The majority of the speech centered around Cruz's opposition to the health care law that went into effect on October 1st despite his best efforts to stop it. "This fight was always about the American people who are hurting because of Obamacare," he said. "And unfortunately today, the United States Senate is saying, 'You don't have a voice in Washington.'"

By the end of his relatively short speech, Cruz said he was "optimistic" that if the American people "continue to rise up" against Obamacare, then perhaps one day the Senate will listen to them. "Mr. President, I rise in opposition to this deal that does not serve the best interest of the men and women each of us represent," Cruz concluded.


He's just what the cameras are looking for, an upcoming Senator with a big personality and the ability to move people, much like our current Potus.

Can you just imagine this guy debating Hillary before the next presidential elections? She would get slaughtered. Of course a lot can happen in 3 years. If he's a stand up guy and doesn't go along with what our corporate masters want, Mr. Cruz will probably wind up being investigated for kiddie porn or something along those lines.




posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 12:42 PM
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The question remains whether the Republicans will let him run, by their behavior I can say that they won't.



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 12:43 PM
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I agree that Cruz would be a great candidate but the GOP prefers pretty boys like Romney, Rick Perry and Palin.

I doubt if he will even get a nomination. Cruz and Bachmann would make a perfect Tea Party duo even though I'm praying for a Palin/Bachmann run on the wet Tshirt platform.


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posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 12:43 PM
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ROFL...seriously? Was that supposed to be a joke? The man who cost the country 24 Billion dollars? The man who is almost as crazy as Michelle Bachmann? No. Hillary is nothing if not politically savvy, which T. Cruz is NOT. She will wipe the floor with him and toss out a dead, dry husk for the rats to drag off. I HOPE he runs against her! That would be like cage fight between Chuck Norris and Pee Wee Herman.



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 12:49 PM
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olaru12
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I agree that Cruz would be a great candidate but the GOP prefers pretty boys like Romney, Rick Perry and Palin.

I doubt if he will even get a nomination. Cruz and Bachmann would make a perfect Tea Party duo even though I'm praying for a Palin/Bachmann run on the wet Tshirt platform.


Would you consider McCain a pretty boy as well?



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 12:49 PM
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Lets see, a person who is center of the storm of the most unpopular congress and faction party in recent history.
Yes, push him forward indeed.


The conservative group’s favorability has fallen a dramatic 20 percentage points among moderate and liberal Republicans, down to 27 percent from 46 percent in June, according to a new Pew poll released on Wednesday.
Source

I suppose he would win if his opposition was...hmm..Ming the Merciless. Short of that though, I am thinking the McCain and Romney landslide loss will look like nothing.

If you have a max of about 10 million voters nationwide as your base, and the rest actually has not just no opinion of you, but strongly resents you (even of your own "party") your chances of office are somewhere between snowball in hell and flying swine.


But its cool you enjoyed his rant. What was he actually, actually saying though? We shouldn't pay our bills because he personally doesn't like a law that was passed a few years back. He was willing to smash the economy because of his moanfest.



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 12:51 PM
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I personally hope he runs.

On the plus side, birthers will have a chance to show they are hypocrites in addition to being imbeciles. I will be entertained by that.

On the negative side, the first lady might be an employee of Goldman Sachs. It will save them a ton on their lobbying.

Voting for USG default to save you from healthcare. Good stuff.



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 12:54 PM
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Ted Cruz will have the floor wiped with his arse against Hillary Clinton.

Don't get me wrong, I don't like either of them, but Hillary is a political powerhouse, with love on both sides of the aisle from a lot of different people.

It would be like running Rick Santorum against Barack Obama.

Sorry, but it's true.

~Tenth


(post by Bone75 removed for political trolling and baiting)

posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 12:56 PM
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I'll give the guy props for eloquence. At the same time, he is also a dangerous ideologue who plays fast and loose with facts and who hinges his entire political career on opposition instead of solutions. I'm not a fan Obamacare, I think it is a half-baked corporate giveaway that does nothing to fix the underlying problems with our medical services system. But Cruz's opposition was not based (or at least articulated as being based) on anything much beyond the fact that he didn't like it.

Never mind the fact that his colleagues took out the part that would have made the rest of it work (the public option) as a means of trying to destroy the entire initiative.

Never mind the very real fact that our health care program in this country is broken and is becoming the laughing stock of the developed world.

Cruz refuses to offer real solutions.

Unless he starts using his considerable public speaking skills to start putting forward an actual agenda, I can't see him mopping the floor with anyone. He's every bit the empty suit Obama is, but at least Obama puts forward ideas and plans. They're not great plans or ideas, and they are consistently diluted by his penchant for capitulation, but he tries to do something other than condemn the opposition viewpoint.

In short, I know what Cruz is against. I want to know what he is specifically FOR.
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posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 01:02 PM
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Bone75

olaru12
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I agree that Cruz would be a great candidate but the GOP prefers pretty boys like Romney, Rick Perry and Palin.

I doubt if he will even get a nomination. Cruz and Bachmann would make a perfect Tea Party duo even though I'm praying for a Palin/Bachmann run on the wet Tshirt platform.


Would you consider McCain a pretty boy as well?


He's a damn site prettier than Cruz. And McCain can sing real nice too....Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran!



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 01:12 PM
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Cruz is to the far right as Obama is to the far left. They both talk a good talk to their base and both are more confrontational and divisive than this country needs. Lord help us if he gets the nomination. It would show we have learned nothing.

The thing is, about 40% of American self identify as Independents which gives them the majority and you will have to draw the majority of them to win.



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 01:14 PM
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The question remains whether the Republicans will let him run, by their behavior I can say that they won't.


After 3 more years under Obama's regime, the American people will be begging for someone, ANYONE to come fix this mess. Cruz is the guy and he will run, mark my words.



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 01:15 PM
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Republicans have great men among them who can win on election but they ignore them ..like Ron paul last election . Rand Paul , Justin Amash, Marco Rubio and on....,
Look this speech from Marco Rubio on the same subject 2 years ago for example



His heritage and his opinion on imigration can also took hispanic and other alien votes from democrates, but no ...they will choose Christie , another corporate whore like Romney.



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 01:24 PM
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It is my opinion that Jeb Bush will be the Republican nominee in 2016. Not only will Bush be the nominee, but he will end up being elected. Speaking of Jeb Bush, a quick search on his status brings up an article published today.

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush is calling on elected leaders to improve a national education system he says is "woefully behind the times." Bush is thought to be weighing a 2016 presidential bid. He spoke Thursday at an education summit in Boston hosted by his nonprofit organization. The Republican leader endorses school vouchers, performance pay for teachers and the end of teacher tenure, among other reforms. Bush says the GOP should focus on the success of Republican governors and not on Washington, where party leaders are plagued by infighting.
ABCTake it for what it's worth.EDIT TO ADD: Anyone notice how he's stayed away from the current politically toxic environment? There's a lot of political experience within that family/group.
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posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 01:28 PM
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I am the one who is delusional.....riiight. As for being "where I am from", that has nothing to do with it. I was born in Texas, lived in Tennessee, Florida, Arizona..then finally California. So what? Crazy is as crazy does and we will just see who is right I guess. Good luck with that.



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 01:34 PM
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I'm not sure how many times this bears repeating, but Ted Cruz does not have the support of the moderate voters, ie swing vote. If you didn't notice an actual moderate Republican alienate everyone but the GOP base in 2012, Cruz would really alienate them in 2016.

He has a rabid base in the Tea Party, but that doesn't mean he has the support of the GOP base. If you can't get the moderate vote, you can't win the Presidency.



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 02:15 PM
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That is a very good observation on your part. I hadn't noticed how far from the public eye the younger Bush has been through all of this. You are right about the political savvy in that family and you may be on to something.



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 02:16 PM
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I agree. Run ted cruze. In fact cruze/Bachman in 2016



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 02:31 PM
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I like Ted Cruz but no one has brought up his citizenship in this thread yet. The MSM would be all over this like you know what. Like CNN's article:

Can Ted Cruz run for president

I think you would see an absolute explosion in "birthers" if he even tries. And this time it would be full court press against IMO. Don't think he has a chance really.





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