List of those that voted for Default

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posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 12:19 PM
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Since the News Outlets don't appear to be providing the specifics...

Here are the Reps. that voted for Default last night. aka they voted "No" to raising the debt ceiling.

However you feel...An informed voter is the best kind...Is your Rep. on the list? If so, do you agree or disagree with the vote?

And for those unsure of who their Congressman is, this link allows you to enter a ZIP and get an answer:
www.house.gov...

In the Senate

• Tom Coburn (R-Okla.)
• John Cornyn (R-Texas)
• Mike Crapo (R-Idaho)
• Ted Cruz (R-Texas)
• Mike Enzi (R-Wy.)
• Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa)
• Dean Heller (R-Nev.)
• Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)
• Mike Lee (R-Utah)
• Rand Paul (R-Ky.)
• James Risch (R-Idaho)
• Pat Roberts (R-Kan.)
• Marco Rubio (R-Fla.)
• Tim Scott (R-S.C.)
• Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.)
• Richard Shelby (R-Ala.)
• Pat Toomey (R-Pa.)
• David Vitter (R-La.)

In the House of Representitives
Nay R Aderholt, Robert AL 4th
Nay R Amash, Justin MI 3rd
Nay R Amodei, Mark NV 2nd
Nay R Bachmann, Michele MN 6th
Nay R Barr, Andy KY 6th
Nay R Barton, Joe TX 6th
Nay R Bentivolio, Kerry MI 11th
Nay R Bishop, Rob UT 1st
Nay R Black, Diane TN 6th
Nay R Blackburn, Marsha TN 7th
Nay R Brady, Kevin TX 8th
Nay R Bridenstine, Jim OK 1st
Nay R Brooks, Mo AL 5th
Nay R Broun, Paul GA 10th
Nay R Bucshon, Larry IN 8th
Nay R Burgess, Michael TX 26th
Nay R Campbell, John CA 45th
Nay R Carter, John TX 31st
Nay R Cassidy, Bill LA 6th
Nay R Chabot, Steve OH 1st
Nay R Chaffetz, Jason UT 3rd
Nay R Collins, Chris NY 27th
Nay R Collins, Doug GA 9th
Nay R Conaway, Michael TX 11th
Nay R Culberson, John TX 7th
Nay R Denham, Jeff CA 10th
Nay R DeSantis, Ron FL 6th
Nay R DesJarlais, Scott TN 4th
Nay R Duffy, Sean WI 7th
Nay R Duncan, Jeff SC 3rd
Nay R Duncan, John TN 2nd
Nay R Ellmers, Renee NC 2nd
Nay R Farenthold, Blake TX 27th
Nay R Fincher, Stephen TN 8th
Nay R Fleischmann, Chuck TN 3rd
Nay R Fleming, John LA 4th
Nay R Flores, Bill TX 17th
Nay R Forbes, Randy VA 4th
Nay R Foxx, Virginia NC 5th
Nay R Franks, Trent AZ 8th
Nay R Garrett, Scott NJ 5th
Nay R Gibbs, Bob OH 7th
Nay R Gingrey, Phil GA 11th
Nay R Gohmert, Louie TX 1st
Nay R Goodlatte, Bob VA 6th
Nay R Gosar, Paul AZ 4th
Nay R Gowdy, Trey SC 4th
Nay R Granger, Kay TX 12th
Nay R Graves, Sam MO 6th
Nay R Graves, Tom GA 14th
Nay R Griffith, Morgan VA 9th
Nay R Hall, Ralph TX 4th
Nay R Harris, Andy MD 1st
Nay R Hartzler, Vicky MO 4th
Nay R Hensarling, Jeb TX 5th
Nay R Holding, George NC 13th
Nay R Hudson, Richard NC 8th
Nay R Huelskamp, Tim KS 1st
Nay R Huizenga, Bill MI 2nd
Nay R Hultgren, Randy IL 14th
Nay R Hunter, Duncan CA 50th
Nay R Hurt, Robert VA 5th
Nay R Johnson, Bill OH 6th
Nay R Johnson, Sam TX 3rd
Nay R Jones, Walter NC 3rd
Nay R Jordan, Jim OH 4th
Nay R King, Steve IA 4th
Nay R Kingston, Jack GA 1st
Nay R Labrador, Raúl ID 1st
Nay R LaMalfa, Doug CA 1st
Nay R Lamborn, Doug CO 5th
Nay R Lankford, James OK 5th
Nay R Latta, Robert OH 5th
Nay R Long, Billy MO 7th
Nay R Lucas, Frank OK 3rd
Nay R Luetkemeyer, Blaine MO 3rd
Nay R Lummis, Cynthia WY
Nay R Marchant, Kenny TX 24th
Nay R Marino, Tom PA 10th
Nay R Massie, Thomas KY 4th
Nay R McCaul, Michael TX 10th
Nay R McClintock, Tom CA 4th
Nay R Meadows, Mark NC 11th
Nay R Messer, Luke IN 6th
Nay R Mica, John FL 7th
Nay R Miller, Candice MI 10th
Nay R Miller, Jeff FL 1st
Nay R Mullin, Markwayne OK 2nd
Nay R Mulvaney, Mick SC 5th
Nay R Neugebauer, Randy TX 19th
Nay R Noem, Kristi SD
Nay R Nugent, Richard FL 11th
Nay R Nunnelee, Alan MS 1st
Nay R Olson, Pete TX 22nd
Nay R Palazzo, Steven MS 4th
Nay R Pearce, Steve NM 2nd
Nay R Perry, Scott PA 4th
Nay R Petri, Tom WI 6th
Nay R Pitts, Joseph PA 16th
Nay R Poe, Ted TX 2nd
Nay R Pompeo, Mike KS 4th
Nay R Posey, Bill FL 8th
Nay R Price, Tom GA 6th
Nay R Radel, Trey FL 19th
Nay R Reed, Tom NY 23rd
Nay R Renacci, James OH 16th
Nay R Rice, Tom SC 7th
Nay R Roby, Martha AL 2nd
Nay R Roe, Phil TN 1st
Nay R Rogers, Mike AL 3rd
Nay R Rohrabacher, Dana CA 48th
Nay R Rokita, Todd IN 4th
Nay R Rooney, Thomas FL 17th
Nay R Ross, Dennis FL 15th
Nay R Rothfus, Keith PA 12th
Nay R Royce, Ed CA 39th
Nay R Ryan, Paul WI 1st
Nay R Salmon, Matt AZ 5th
Nay R Sanford, Mark SC 1st
Nay R Scalise, Steve LA 1st
Nay R Schweikert, David AZ 6th
Nay R Scott, Austin GA 8th
Nay R Sensenbrenner, James WI 5th
Nay R Sessions, Pete TX 32nd
Nay R Smith, Jason MO 8th
Nay R Smith, Lamar TX 21st
Nay R Southerland, Steve FL 2nd
Nay R Stewart, Chris UT 2nd
Nay R Stockman, Steve TX 36th
Nay R Stutzman, Marlin IN 3rd
Nay R Thornberry, Mac TX 13th
Nay R Turner, Michael OH 10th
Nay R Wagner, Ann MO 2nd
Nay R Walberg, Tim MI 7th
Nay R Walden, Greg OR 2nd
Nay R Walorski, Jackie IN 2nd
Nay R Weber, Randy TX 14th
Nay R Wenstrup, Brad OH 2nd
Nay R Westmoreland, Lynn GA 3rd
Nay R Williams, Roger TX 25th
Nay R Wilson, Joe SC 2nd
Nay R Woodall, Rob GA 7th
Nay R Yoder, Kevin KS 3rd
Nay R Yoho, Ted FL 3rd
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posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 12:23 PM
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If only there were more, I tip my hat to the brave few who seek to face the music, lance the boil and begin our national healing.

Apparently you celebrate the deniers, spendthrifts and tyrants, might I ask why exactly?


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posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 12:28 PM
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Good for them at least we know who truly cares for the people and we know who wants the people to keep feeding off the governments nipple like some dog.



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 12:30 PM
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Sadly none of mine are on that list.

Not surprising since I'm sandwiched between an authoritarian on the left and an authoritarian on the right.


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posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 12:31 PM
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never understood how people think that, incurring more debt helps to get you out of debt.
and attack those who say, you can't barrow yourself out of debt.

go to your creditors and tell them that you want to raise your debt, with out enough income or assets to cover what debt you already have.



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 12:33 PM
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Thanks for posting the list Indigo, I was wondering when it would come out.

Needless to say, damn near all the politicians from my crazy assed state are represented on this list. Don't know what to say other than "I'm sorry." I didn't vote for a single one of them in the past and I won't in the future either.

On a good note, we're hoping that this recent display of insanity on the part of the Tea Party will wake up voters across this state. Not to mention that we now have Wendy Davis running for Governor. I haven't been this optimistic for Texas politics since the days of Ann Richards.


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posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 12:35 PM
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NO THEY DID NOT VOTE FOR DEFAULT, THEY VOTED FOR ZERO INCREASE IN THE DEBT CEILING.

The ONLY long term solution is for Obama to stop squandering cash and balance the budget, but it is one that he refuses to consider even to exist.



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 12:36 PM
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hounddoghowlie
never understood how people think that, incurring more debt helps to get you out of debt.


Pfft., they don't think that, they're only telling you that because they can't offer the truth.

More Debt = More to Syphon, and they know it!



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 12:37 PM
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Perhaps I don't understand the issues fully. But choosing to default seems to lack an element of honor.
Just keep government shut, and pay the piper. After that maybe they can open for business again.
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posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 12:45 PM
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There is no fix for this system. Too many people to recreate a system which will not end in the same result.

Even attempting to barter will recreate a system of IOUs and then credit which will create another system of fake money. Those with the most will always want to take advantage of those with less.



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 12:53 PM
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How many people would be willing to no longer have access to credit through the large banks, or banks in general. Will people spend their weekend doing the work that the government is paid to do because most of the government is removed. Will people be trusted to do the right thing and oversee each other since regulations enforced by the governments is gone.



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 01:00 PM
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roadgravel
How many people would be willing to no longer have access to credit through the large banks, or banks in general.


There is an argument, a good one too, to be made that access to credit is a substantial driver of prices up into the range where one would require ever more credit. In the absence of credit people will adapt.


Will people spend their weekend doing the work that the government is paid to do because most of the government is removed.


You mean like plowing and grading my dirt road? I already do that. And loads more the government cant be bothered to do. But I pay my taxes. Still not sure what I'm getting for it.



Will people be trusted to do the right thing and oversee each other since regulations enforced by the governments is gone.


Oh no, who will shoot farmer Browns dog for his growing pot in the field!

Asking "how many people" is irrelevant. Like those who would and could would ever be allowed by those who cant or wont to do it?

Which brings me to the question of why not. Why cant they live the way they want and I live the way I want? There isnt a sing
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posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 01:09 PM
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Increasing debt isn't a good thing. But anyone who thinks defaulting would serve to force the government to straighten out its financial house needs to put down the mushrooms. We absolutely need to get a plan implemented to pay down our debt and balance our budget. But that cannot happen as long as politicians are beholden to special interests and big business. Had we defaulted, we would have had our credit rating immediately lowered which would significantly increase our existing debt burden and significantly increased the cost of borrowing going forward.

Anyone who has experienced financial hardship while trying to pay-off a credit card knows the scenario: you're struggling to make payments, you start becoming late (default), the CC company increases your interest rate which then increases your payments (which you are already unable to make). You just fall deeper and deeper in debt even though you aren't charging anything.

This was a dumb idea and did nothing to fix anything.


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posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 01:09 PM
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Uhh What Default ?

Nobody's proving a default would have happened.

It's all slanted opinions.

The Daily Treasury reports might indicate a different story.

Daily Treasury Statements

But it takes an accountant to put it all in normal terms.

The Government takes in more than enough to pay the full faith and credit.

Eliminate the deficit spending, and you stop the insanity.

The U.S. is under economic insurrection.

But then again, it depends how somebody interprets the 14th Amendment.

Do we have any professionals in the house ?



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 01:15 PM
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The DTR doesn't list payables. Need both sides of the ledger to support your claim.



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 01:16 PM
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While its nice to see that some have the balls in Washington to do something about the debt in the nation, I was one of those that keep repeating that US will never default in its debt regardless of the pony show and lies that even the president dared to tell to the gullible and scare Americans either on disability or SS or any of the other entitlement programs that robs the working class to pay for the needy

I just wish that the circus in town would have lasted longer.

Democrats seems to come out looking good, while Republicans put up a show to their constituents about how much they care, at the end the only losers are the working class tax payer.

But we may get another circus performance in 90 days.



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 01:17 PM
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Those people on that list are the only ones who will get my vote in the future. Everyone else should pack their bags.



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 01:20 PM
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jtma508
reply to post by xuenchen
 


The DTR doesn't list payables. Need both sides of the ledger to support your claim.


I partly agree.

Perhaps somebody can prove this out with those ledgers.

It default was imminent, somebody supporting that would have opened the can.

They apparently haven't.

ADDED graph;
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posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 01:21 PM
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hounddoghowlie
never understood how people think that, incurring more debt helps to get you out of debt.
and attack those who say, you can't barrow yourself out of debt.

go to your creditors and tell them that you want to raise your debt, with out enough income or assets to cover what debt you already have.





THis is not true.

I had a card with a $5000 limit. Needed to exceed that limit for a purchase. Called the company, did some dealing, and upped my limit to $10k. I only wanted it up to $7k...but thats not how they roll apparently.

If your credit profile validates the risk, the creditor will take on the risk at an interest rate reflecting the amount of risk being undertaken. Its why payday loans have such a high interest rate....the default rate on them is very high (but the scam on those comes in with how high the collection rate on defaulted loans really is).



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 01:23 PM
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Wow, look at the list of all the DEMOCRATS responsible for the shutdown. oh wait...its not.





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