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posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 09:07 AM
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A woman has been charged with petty theft for taking $2.87 from a courthouse fountain.


A western Ohio woman charged with petty theft for allegedly stealing $2.87 from a courthouse fountain says she is jobless and took the change to buy food.

WBNS-TV in Columbus (http://(link tracking not allowed)/H5izgu ) reports the woman pleaded not guilty Wednesday. A police report alleges she stole the change Oct. 7 from the Logan County Courthouse fountain in Bellefontaine (behl-FOWN'-tihn), and an officer asked her what she was doing and found change in her pocket.

The woman says she worries she'll end up in jail for taking money that she says didn't belong to anyone. She says she has no job, is on the verge of losing her apartment and was trying to feed herself and her four cats.

The city's safety director says officials hope to resolve the case before the November trial.


I hate hearing stories like this, they seem to be more and more common these days in America and in the UK and Ireland. Would it not cost them more to take this to court than it would to just let her keep the $2.87? what kind of person reports someone for taking loose change from a fountain, they obviously need it if they are doing it in the first place.


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posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 09:11 AM
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Couldn't they have just asked the poor woman to put the money back, or put the 2 bucks in the fountain back themselves and pointed her in the direction of a food bank?

Did it really have to go that far?

I think a warning and a little kindness towards her situation would have sufficed.



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 09:14 AM
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Its the same concept getting charged for stealing a 50 cent candy. Stealing is stealing no matter the amount.

Its ridiculous but it is what it is.


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posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 09:16 AM
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Of course she is not part of the Government so she cant steal and get away with it.



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 09:16 AM
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I always wondered if municipalities viewed frivolities such as fountains as a sort of income stream. Maybe even budget for x amount of dollars coming from it every year. Sort of how they do with traffic tickets.

I guess now I know. Taxpayer dollars to fund a sculpture that idiots dump money into.

At least at a casino you have some chance of winning. Tossing it into a well is, well, stupid.

Towns getting butt-hurt over somebody scooping up $2 bucks is madness.

What's next, arresting people for picking up thrown away cans off the ground for the nickle?



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 09:16 AM
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Yes, stealing is stealing. She knew what she was doing so should suffer the consequences, although likely she'll just be told off.

Regarsd



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 09:18 AM
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But if someone steals a bar of chocolate from a shop then the shopkeeper is the one at a lose, who is financially hurt from money taken from a fountain?

Too heavy handed.



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 09:25 AM
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Would it not cost them more to take this to court than it would to just let her keep the $2.87?

Yes. But they don't care, because they didn't have to work for that money. You and I did. When you work for something, you appreciate it. When you live off the backs of others, you have no appreciation for anyone or anything.



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 09:30 AM
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NO!

The fountain is taxpayer property isn't it? So actually, nobody owns the money in that fountain. Or it should belong to the taxpayers. So that would make her able to legally take the money out, wouldn't it?

Sorry, this is complete BS!



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 09:34 AM
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steal [stiːl]
vb steals, stealing, stole, stolen
1. to take (something) from someone, etc. without permission or unlawfully, esp in a secret manner

First of all they would have to determine who's property it was....The Money was in a Fountain owned by the people, so technically she had every right to claim it.

If you find a Twenty blowing down the street and pick it up and keep it..are you stealing it ???



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 09:37 AM
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People get jail time for petty theft while people in power steal billions, steal lives, and it's admired (granted, that doesn't make stealing right in either case; but the age old issue of whether stealing to feed oneself is less wrong than stealing for profit or fun, but that's another debate).

A better question is, from who did she steal? If someone throws his or her own quarter into a fountain, does that quarter then immediately become the county's property because it was thrown into a fountain?? Which brings me to my next point, who actually pays for the courthouse? The citizens, by extension.

Hypothetical: Secondly, what if that was her OWN money she threw in there at some point in the past? Does that still make it stealing if she is retrieving it? Does she lose the right to that money and does it immediately become the property of the county simply because she threw it in a fountain?

This whole case is stupid. Granted, there could very well be others factors involved in why she was actually arrested, but this is still stupid.

i want to know WHO legally has the right to that money (the federal government, since it's "abandoned" and they coined it?), and from WHO she is stealing.

Such a stupid waste of time, headache, and tax dollars, this case.

And people wonder why the country is going downhill.

The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its less fortunate members.
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posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 09:44 AM
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Any time "taxpayers" is used you should read "state."

People are kicked out of taxpayer owned lands and properties all the time. People are refused use of taxpayer owned and funded areas all the time. Just look back over the past couple of weeks.

So "taxpayers" only means you and me to children and the hopelessly naive. In reality it simple means the state owns it and the state can do whatever the state wishes with it.

So every time some looney tune throws their property, their money, into one of these "taxpayer" owned fountains they are essentially saying "here, state, I love you so much have some more of my money."

Taking it up a notch what frightens me is the underlying meaning of the act. Why do people toss coins into fountains? To make a wish. No longer is that wish cast out into the ether. Now, by tossing that coin into a state owned fountain you are asking the state to grant that wish. The state has taken root in mystic parts of life. Embedded itself into lore and superstition.

Next time you see a fountain think about that. Children tossing coins asking the state to grant their wishes.

Dystopic nightmares are with us everyday and we hardly notice.



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 09:49 AM
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For those that don't know....the fountain IS a source of income for whoever owns the property. Where did you guys think all the money goes? Rhetorical question, because before I saw it on an episode of Modern Marvels, I didn't know either.


On Modern Marvels, they had a company on that basically cleans the dirty coins from fountains, and restores them. Then, the company sends them to the bank, and gets to keep a percentage, while the property owner of the fountain gets the rest. They specifically avoided telling us the financial aspects of fountains, probably for areason, lol.

So anyway, yes, that is probably why they charged her with theft. A combination of a hard headed cop, and the fact that the fountain is a generator of income I guess.


Anyway, when I was younger, one of my exs jumped into a fountain, in the middle of the Square where i live, and started grabbing all the coins. I followed suit, and within minutes we were soaked, with hand fulls of coins, running back to my Jeep, lol.



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 09:54 AM
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If she had the money to hire adequate legal help this would be flipped back onto the municipality as from what I can assume, no private ownership was posted on the fountain thus leaving us to assume its a public place and no different than finding loose change on the ground in a park.



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 10:00 AM
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Well, I don't by that anymore, and will argue it with any city official in my town. Here's why. We have a township hall. I asked the board to rent it. Nobody had ever done that before. ( very odd, as it is old) Anyway, you know what they told me? No charge!!!!! Why? Because I am a taxpayer of that township. So, I guess they set a bad precedent for the people in our township? Not in my eyes. Actually the way government is suppose to work, right?



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 10:07 AM
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While it may have been a waste of time for a few bucks, that is several hundred wishes, stealing wishes is like stealing dreams.

She should rot in jail for the rest of her life.



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 10:16 AM
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Thank goodness for cops. I feel so much safer now.



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 10:24 AM
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How much money will be spent for a trial over 2 bucks and some change. One would hope the system could come up with a cheap resolution. Since she pleads not guilty I would assume the system must spend the money on a trial.



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 10:25 AM
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Is it me or are cops getting dumber?



posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 10:33 AM
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Yes, stealing is stealing. She knew what she was doing so should suffer the consequences, although likely she'll just be told off.

Regarsd


I don't consider that stealing. It was in a fountain, akin to being on the pavement. Some might look for idenficiation if its a wallet, but if its just small change, whatever. Normally finding money like that would be considered a gift from God.
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