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Solution to the debt crisis. Do not vote for republicans or democrats EVER AGAIN!

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posted on Oct, 17 2013 @ 08:04 PM
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1)Term limits to all politicians.

2)Spending caps on the government.

3)Legalize all drugs.(effectively ending the fake war on drugs and killing the black market for drugs)

4)Create a voter app so that people can vote on their iphone,andriod, or symbian device.

5)Create an alternative mainstream media outlet that is not corporate controlled via the internet.




posted on Oct, 18 2013 @ 01:41 AM
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John_Rodger_Cornman
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1)Term limits to all politicians.

2)Spending caps on the government.

3)Legalize all drugs.(effectively ending the fake war on drugs and killing the black market for drugs)

4)Create a voter app so that people can vote on their iphone,andriod, or symbian device.

5)Create an alternative mainstream media outlet that is not corporate controlled via the internet.


Term limits are a must - and this position should not have a dual role (running country and salesman). It should not be a job that gives one the best of the best of the best of "every human want and need. Power, glory, riches, excitement, adoration, servants, etc, etc. That is dangerous and the greatest temptation to behave badly. We have to take back power since we are contributing to the preverbal carrot for these guys (wish they were strong enough but they are human).

If the public demanded this of every new politician - to enact some of the ideas agreed upon by most we could see a shift. Because they are so large and powerful there could be more lies to get elected. But...try long enough it becomes salient in the population and eventually happens.



How about: (maybe)

Public funding of campaigns maybe - no fundraising Everyone gets an equal amount. You know that 3.00 check mark you can put on your taxes - just make it mandatory and that's it - no more, not even their own money.

Somehow take the partisanship out.

Exploitation of any disaster or traumatic event is tightly controlled - so there is none. When the public is at its most vulnerable the government cannot capitalize off of this to make themselves more powerful and the public more dependent.

Checks and balances for major media by uninterested persons from various agencies (NGO's maybe). Illegal to give one candidate more attention than another or to endorse one over the other. Any evidence of this - license suspension . These outlets carry a lot of power and weight in elections and since they cannot be ethical on their own should have regulations imposed. Have to be unbiased on "all" levels.



posted on Oct, 18 2013 @ 07:36 PM
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If it were only that easy.

We live under a duopoly. Two parties controlled by essentially the same cabal of oligarchs. You can vote for A or B but they both work for the same group behind the curtain so to speak. The government as it is, is OWNED by them. You will never get a 3rd party inside what is essentially a private institution that pretends to be public. that's why, no matter who gets "elected" the same agenda is furthered. We don't have choice, we have the ILLUSION of choice. And people keep expending energy year after year after year trying to get a third party in, when the OWNERS will never let that happen.



posted on Oct, 19 2013 @ 07:29 PM
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ownbestenemy
You can however effect the political process by engaging in politics at the lowest level and move upwards.


Thank you.
It all starts at home.
People seem to have forgotten that.



posted on Oct, 22 2013 @ 02:07 AM
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John_Rodger_Cornman
1)Term limits to all politicians.


Already in place; the People have chosen not to utilize it and since we, of differing States, have no say in the matters of each others affairs save those that are bound by the Federal Constitution. We have "term" limits in place. The People of each State are free to exercise such a freedom if they so wish.


2)Spending caps on the government.


There is that too -- I am seeing a trend to think that you do not believe that individuals have the capacity to govern themselves; but instead need order and structure and legislation to tell them what is and what isn't acceptable.


3)Legalize all drugs.(effectively ending the fake war on drugs and killing the black market for drugs)


All drugs? Legalize PCP? I am in your court on this argument save the "all" part. I believe that there is a valid argument for a form of regulation upon drugs; just as there as sound regulations upon alcohol (for the most part -- some asinine ones linger from prohibition).


4)Create a voter app so that people can vote on their iphone,andriod, or symbian device.


I chuckled a bit...but no. We can't even ensure that devices that are under the watch of election volunteers are not defective...you think voting via an app is the way forward? We aren't voting for the best in class here...


5)Create an alternative mainstream media outlet that is not corporate controlled via the internet.


Let us do it. I am all for it. There are several out there...I say we start a campaign to draw together like minded individuals and create a marketplace of ideas that can flourish based on their merits and their arguments; not their pocket-books or adherence to any perceived agendas. It would also be a place where news was news. Someone went out and dug up the Who, What, Where, Why and When and just reported that.

I am game.



posted on Oct, 22 2013 @ 03:15 AM
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And vote for what?

The extreme right wing offshoot splinter of the GOP, the tea party?


John_Rodger_Cornman
Constitutionalist Party
Green Party
Libertarian Party
Indepentant party


3 of the four are extreme right wing parties. For all I know the Greens are prolly extreme right wing too.

Yours would be a reasonable suggestion if one also had a socialist and a communist party to choose from.
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posted on Oct, 22 2013 @ 07:19 PM
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Pejeu
3 of the four are extreme right wing parties. For all I know the Greens are prolly extreme right wing too.


Which 3 would you consider to be "extreme"? Why?


Yours would be a reasonable suggestion if one also had a socialist and a communist party to choose from.


Curious question, why would you, with the power of the Internet at your finger tips, say "for all I know..." in regards to the Green Party. It takes half a second to see their platform and see that they are anything but "right" wing. To me it seems that any suggestion that doesn't fit your neatly segregated boxes that you have identified people into, is "right"...



posted on Oct, 22 2013 @ 07:40 PM
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Spookybelle
You do realize that the republicans were at one time a third party and they were voted in to replace the Whig party.

Now you propose to do the same thing again?


The Whigs slipped into obscurity because their platform eventually sucked... or maybe I watched too much Olbermann until a couple, three years ago. IDK

Maybe it's being suggested a new platform occasionally gets pulled out of the grass that represents W.t.People; it's evident those two crotchity old parts aren't doing us anymore.
I wonder if the peoples' interests extend to any real freedom now?

And what... Jefferson said a revolution every twenty-five or so years would be a good thing. I submit that a platform shouldn't need more than that to become corrupted by special interests.



posted on Oct, 22 2013 @ 07:47 PM
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Voting? are there people in this country that still do that? It's about the money. follow the money and you know who will win the elections. We get the best government money can buy isn't an urban myth, it's an empirical fact. (unless the candidate is a TOTAL LOSER like Jimmy Carter, John F Kennedy or the younger Bush. Oh, yeah, and the crack head that won the last two times!
Seriously, do you think ANYONE in the known Universe would vote for that tool or the romney tool if there was someone else, like Satan, or Stalin, or Oprah !



posted on Oct, 22 2013 @ 07:54 PM
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sligtlyskeptical
Voting out all the incumbents is a good start. Term limits are an excellent idea. We also really need line item voting of any bills. That way only the items that the parties can together on will be passed, eliminating a great portion of pork. Along those lines, I don't think the President should get line-item veto powers as part of this, too much power. Also any time the Congress cannot come to agreement on budgets, etc. they get removed and a special election is held to replace them. Anyone who refuses to act in good faith to their constituents gets charged with treason. This would include things like being fully informed on the matters before the congress. For example not reading and understanding bills before voting on them would be treasonous behavior. For pete's sake most of these people are lawyers. Of course having witnessed many lawyers in action, they usually fail their clients even when they are victorious. It just comes down to which lawyer is less worse.

As for the debt...we shouldn't have any debt. The treasury should be able to "coin" (i.e. create) money without assuming debt. As a part of eliminating debt based money we would also need to eliminate the fractional reserve banking system, thus shrinking the money supply much more than the Treasury printing would grow it. Eventually we would get to an equilibrium with very low inflation. At that time, limit the money creation to a small percentage each year with only a National referendum being able to increase it. Thus the America people would have a voice before we went to war and such things.

Amen to all points!

I will emphasize treason as waging war against the constitution or the people. A that level of government, nonperformance if found should have been the impetus decades ago for a recall election. I am not sure if every state retains this local power.

For hanging offenses Captain I recall that Plan 1787 had only three; murder, treason and counterfeiting. Deferring any focus to current events, things still don't appear to be going well.
Per Sir Charlie, though--
"Perhaps a dozen with the rope's end will wake the lad up."






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