Electromagnetism, UFOs, and the Weaponization of Alien Technology

JayinAR
What do you think Alexander means when he asks Hutchison if he is a part of the "system"?
He links it to poltergeist phenomena.

Man, that's a complex question, but I'm working on a complex answer of sorts. I actually need to complete it to move forward.

My take--on most days--is that it comes back to the hypothesis I said I'd proffer here: Are there factions within our military-industrial-intelligence complex that have been "Sleeping with the Enemy?" That is to say, a non-human--on-or-off-world--intelligence, that has human mayhem in mind?

I'll botch the thesis I want to proffer if I give a short reply now, but I'll attempt a 'teaser' and throw out something that I hope some of y'all have some thoughts on, too. Let's call it, for now, black and white magic and consider it not so much "paranormal" as a matter of personal philosophy and applied psychology in the pursuit of the 'will to power.'

Those, like Aquino, who are magnetically attracted to ''black magic' generally have ambitions to assert their will, grab what they can get, subscribe to an ends-justifies-the-means mentality, look down on those they perceive as weaker, and relate to 'the law of the jungle.'

Now, the question becomes; How many folk like that do we possibly see connected to the whole government UFO/PSYOPS/Nonlethal Weapons/MK-ULTRA/Homeland Security/Occult arena? What are so many of them doing here at ATS for that matter? Why do they decline answering questions while hiding behind claims of security oaths but profess philosophies more in line with elitism and globalism than Constitutional patriotism?

The thought just now hit me that I haven't even addressed yet the many terrifying experiences the RV'ers had witrh unfriendly "entities." Freaked the absolute deak out of some of them.

Whether a Jungian-esque explanation of subconscious struggle between good and evil that we all face, or whether such a hyper-reality actually exisists...it definitely has it's influence on the souls of humankind and some fall to the white, and some to the black. The System? Black. Known by it's adherents as "The System." I mean, heck, we don't know what it is. Alexander and Hutchison do apparently.

Like I said in the intro: The dark recesses where the dark arts prosper and dark things whisper in the ears of men.

Do I sound incoherent?

p.s. - I thought I'd punch "paranormal + the system" into Google. Kind o' odd what turned up being as how it has Persinger and high-strangeness associated with it:

A Tool Using Magnetic Stimulation For Paranormal Investigations

reply to post by tetra50

Well, when I read that interview Gut linked, I can't help but agree with Alexander on many of his paranormal views, even if I don't trust him otherwise.

When he speaks about keeping one foot in "reality" and working on mundane projects, lest you go insane, I know exactly what he speaks about. Personal experiences once took me directly down the looney path. OBEs, high strangeness, poltergeist Phenom, the "oz factor", etc.

It sucks, and it is a tough rabbit hole to climb back out of. But I know all of this is very real. I feel foolish for even tempting the fates by researching this stuff now, but I feel like I am much more educated this go around and therefore "ready"...or as ready as one can be.

What do I think he means by "part of the system"? Simple. Same thing Vallee calls the 'control'. The Matrix would call it a program...

The NSA's Signals Intelligence (SIGINT) involves decoding EMF waves to tap into computers wirelessly and track people. Using EMF Brain Stimulation to monitor individuals, organizations and nations, it complements the CIA/Defense Intelligence Agency's (DIA) Human Intelligence (HUMINT), and National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency's Imagery Intelligence (IMINT). NSA's DOMINT can track millions of people simultaneously. It can also inflict harm, control subjects psychologically and kill.

JayinAR
What do I think he means by "part of the system"? Simple. Same thing Vallee calls the 'control'. The Matrix would call it a program...

There ya' go. You should have saved everyone a wall of text and answered your own question, Jay!

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Ah...well, I have my opinions. But if we don't listen to other opinions our views will never change.


ETA: also, I ran across a few of the spookier elements of RVing as well.

Truth be told, I had been tinkering with RV myself when I had my ordeal a few years back. RV and a few other .... ummm... 'creative' meditations.

JayinAR
Ah...well, I have my opinions. But if we don't listen to other opinions our views will never change.

No slam, brother, I was basically agreeing. It was a compliment on you stating it much more succintly than I was able to. I referred to my wall of text. That makes me the idgit, not you. I'm grateful you are participating.

JayinAR
What do I think he means by "part of the system"? Simple. Same thing Vallee calls the 'control'. The Matrix would call it a program...

Thetan comes to mind.
That would be the spirit of John Hutchison himself.

It could expand beyond that, however do not underestimate that
single influence into the mix...will get supporting info if any one is interested.

JayinAR
reply to post by tetra50

 

Well, when I read that interview Gut linked, I can't help but agree with Alexander on many of his paranormal views, even if I don't trust him otherwise.

When he speaks about keeping one foot in "reality" and working on mundane projects, lest you go insane, I know exactly what he speaks about. Personal experiences once took me directly down the looney path. OBEs, high strangeness, poltergeist Phenom, the "oz factor", etc.

It sucks, and it is a tough rabbit hole to climb back out of. But I know all of this is very real. I feel foolish for even tempting the fates by researching this stuff now, but I feel like I am much more educated this go around and therefore "ready"...or as ready as one can be.

What do I think he means by "part of the system"? Simple. Same thing Vallee calls the 'control'. The Matrix would call it a program...

YES, exactly, However.....Alexander wants you to trust him via that disinfo.....that's part and parcel of the "play," IMHO. That's all part of the Psyops, is my point, Jay, in all respect. And what he wants us to discuss, disseminate, and believe, only to deflect us from further dissemination and taking apart the subterfuge they have presented us with for years.....and for what purpose?

Mainly, and it is disappointing, really, that they are the men IN CONTROL, no matter whether they understand or KNOW what is really happening.....but they control the flow of information, and our extrapolation of such, as it presents....

consider, Bigelow bought Skinwalker Ranch, AFTER the reports of "unusual activity," there. Consider, if you want to study a place, do you need to have a person on "your side" BUY it, and apply for funds to study the happenings there, without an outright ownership and thereby, CONTROL of it ( at least pre-imminent domain)....

In other words, this place is being used in a disinformation campaign, one person (Col. Alexander) writing books and acquiescing the stangeness, while helping to take control over whatever is happening there, and another villifing the info gatherered......

However, you can discern the truth by the list of dead scientists.....
Sincerely,
Tetra50

I found this article that the above post comes from if all this is true then the zombie apocalypse could be in reality just a way to control the masses,not the run amok eating people kind but zombies who have no will of their own by mind control. Here is the article i refer to a very informant piece.
Electromagnetic Frequency Mind Control Weapons
By Stephen Lendman

reply to post by The GUT


Idgit? Haha. Not at all. Many of us would be as lucky to possess your abilities of descriptive prose.

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Wth?

reply to post by tetra50


Yeah, I still can't understand the angle NIDS was working at Skinwalker.
I mean, the phenomena there has plenty of independent verification. I don't need to read THEIR books to get an accurate portrayal of what happens there. Heck, we have people here from ATS who have investigated there...

I guess Bigalow still owns the ranch, right? But NIDS is now dissolved. I don't suspect they found much.

It would be interesting to see if they tried any of their dark magic rituals out there though...

JayinAR
other.... ummm... 'creative' meditations.

*Jay turns on plasma ball, turns off lights, makes water-bubbling noise for 5 mins or so,
and then "meditates"*

J/K! Ha!

JayinAR
Yeah, I still can't understand the angle NIDS was working at Skinwalker.
I mean, the phenomena there has plenty of independent verification. I don't need to read THEIR books to get an accurate portrayal of what happens there. Heck, we have people here from ATS who have investigated there...

Danggit, y'all keep bringing up great stuff that I'm working on but don't have finished!!! There is some little-known information that might, maybe, shed some light on that. I'll try and collate it all as quickly as possible.

Hint: Black Ops EM experimentation.

burntheships

JayinAR
What do I think he means by "part of the system"? Simple. Same thing Vallee calls the 'control'. The Matrix would call it a program...

Thetan comes to mind.
That would be the spirit of John Hutchison himself.

It could expand beyond that, however dont underestimate that
single influence into the mix...will get supporting info.

I look forward, Burntheships, to you're sourcing the "system" question, and explaining it to the rest of us, in the dark about that particular point, really I do. Would heartily like to see those sources referring directly to and proving "the system" and what that really means and refers to, without any doubt....
Cause this thead, as Gut has so readily sourced and intelligently argued, the "source" we speak of here, is really the answer and question to all we are discussing and disseminating here....and something that escapes sourcing, as we know that on this website, for verification and dissemination and proofof what we all may be exeriencing and living through, but hesistate to express for fear of being branded something or other mental.....

So, please, provide and save us, and illuminate otherwise...
Tetra50

reply to post by The GUT



" Now, the question becomes; How many folk like that do we possibly see connected to the whole government UFO/PSYOPS/Nonlethal Weapons/MK-ULTRA/Homeland Security/Occult arena? What are so many of them doing here at ATS for that matter? Why do they decline answering questions while hiding behind claims of security oaths but profess philosophies more in line with elitism and globalism than Constitutional patriotism?"

Ya know man, I get the suspicion that these guys really do feel like they are masters of this domain.
I'll paraphrase something Aquino said in his AMA thread: "I decided this year I would crack my knuckles and rid the world of physical war."... talk about an ego.

Anyhow, how does one do that? Nonlethal Weaponry is one key. Overwhelming, Orwellian force that keeps people in a constant state of fear. Another key would be to end our tribal/Nationalistic mentality. This is where I keep coming back to the new religious paradigm you hinted at early on in this thread. "Sleeping with the Enemy" indeed...this is easily resolved by introducing said enemy. Or most likely it will be spun as a friend, rather than an enemy.
We wouldn't even need to see them. Just show us some magic and say you got it from them.
The reason then, that they abandon Constitutional Patriotism is because they have covinced themselves that by waging their Mindwar and fixing our problems, they have superceded that dusty old document they call a Constitution.

Problem is that they may be right.

JayinAR
reply to post by tetra50

 

Yeah, I still can't understand the angle NIDS was working at Skinwalker.
I mean, the phenomena there has plenty of independent verification. I don't need to read THEIR books to get an accurate portrayal of what happens there. Heck, we have people here from ATS who have investigated there...

I guess Bigalow still owns the ranch, right? But NIDS is now dissolved. I don't suspect they found much.

It would be interesting to see if they tried any of their dark magic rituals out there though...

My point, is, for all your points taken into account, is that it becomes obvious at a certain point (when Bigelow purchased that ranch, say), is that no matter what was reported on that property, it was purchased by a controllable asset, and the disinformation campaign started and ended right there. That is why he was the purchaser. But you have to think past that, too. As in, did they just have an asset purchase the property to control the flow of info as to what was happening there, or did they actively control happenings there, in order to have an asset purchase the property, and propogate the tales from there, to write books, earn money, and further propel the UFO/alien presence mythology from there...

That's really what this thread is about, in essence....what part of what we've read has been reported is true, and what part has been propelled and for what reasons?>
Tetra

tetra50
Would heartily like to see those sources referring directly to and proving "the system" and what that really means and refers to, without any doubt....

Without a doubt, yes I have no doubt as to this is part of the puzzle.
Not that I can "prove" it...yet so much research has centered upon this
I would be remiss to dismiss it out of hand; not the least of an example
is the very fact that we a beings possess more than a physical body,
we have soul and spirit as well. Yes, our dear brother The Gut is our
gift so to say, our very intelligent oracle; will do my best by him.

reply to post by burntheships


I too would like to hear your opinion on this. What do you think Alexander means by the system?
I think we're all in agreement he is hinting at the spirit...the question is though, what sort of power is he attributing to Hutchison's spirit?

JayinAR
Problem is that they may be right.

I pretty much agree with all of that post except the statement above. I mean, sure, they have 50+ years of think-tank papers talking about how all political systems have a curve from healthy to fail and further extrapolations of how society might react badly to unavoidable change thusly needing them to take charge.

And sure: One World sounds good on paper. Like all the major political ideas do. Democracy, Communism, Socialism, etc all sound like poetry when inked.

The problems I have and foresee with these"'Masters of the Universe" is that 1.) they seem like sociopathic elites of the worst sort and, 2.) they were bred in a climate of incompetence and that's all they know.

Control they're pretty handy at, wisdom and compassion not so much.

Alas, however, it does look inevitable and I wonder what good it even does, or what purpose it serves, to write about?

Maybe to keep some folk from assimilating with, and worshipping, the borg---"The System" I mean?