Originally posted by skippytjc
Im sure you have never had any thoughts that werent politically incorrect.
Oh I'm certainly not someone that the PC Fascists would be fond of; but there is a huge difference between not being PC and lamenting that you can't
publically call for millions to die
Im sure Nygdan that must be the case. It would be real easy for me to sit here and take the high ground with you, but again im not afraid to say
those were my thoughts.
quote]Originally posted by moxyone
Would I like to see all terrorists in the world commit suicide without harming innocents?
Again, you reveal what level you are thinking on. There is nothing that indicates that this self-immolator was a terrorist. You heard 'arab' and
you thought 'terrist'. If you just meant that you wish all the terrorists would die then all well and good and I think everyone here agrees with
you. Unfortunately you mucked it all up by jumping to the conclusion that any arab is a terrorist. And lets face it in this current atmosphere with
hundreds of people calling for the extermination of muslims and arabs it can only be expected that such comments be taken in that way.
I still cannot beleive that NO ONE else had the balls to say anything against this
The author didn't commit some horribly unamerican mistake by pointing out that the original poster was calling for an equally disgusting horrible and
immoral atrocity. And you are not defending the country in saying any of this, the original poster made a horrible country destroying comment that
was, at its best, reactionary, ignorant, unthinking and wrathful, which is the last thing the US needs right now. I'm not saying the US can't get
mean, as the saying goes, but bordering on genocide simply isn't acceptable.
how many times has this occured in U.S. history?
What, people killing themselves because they disagree with any particular administration? Who cares, let them kill themselves. Why is it the fault
or issue of the administration, why ask why the disconnect is with the administration? The disconnect is with these people killing themselves, they
are the ones that should be scrutinized. Bush fought a war, and it was unpopular. And for that, people will blow their heads off and set themselves
on fire? Well, who needs those people anyway, they haven't been able to accomplish anything, they've literally wasted their lives. Now, I'll
agree, this is somewhat unusual, and its definitely a black mark on the admin's record, but, well, so what? They're unpopular, half the voters
voted against them, what can be done about that? They've laid it plain what they want to do and how they plan to do it, and the public approves. A
couple of idiots commiting suicide isn't going to change it. Heck, it barely gets noticed really.
Yep, the government is disconnected from at least HALF of us
Well, but thats how every democratic government works. In a best case scenario, with the entire country voting, the winner just needs one more person
than half the population in order to win. So effectively half the country didn't get what they wanted. Heck, its worse than that because of minor
parties, and usually the guy elected doesn't get a majority of the overall popular vote, just a plurality of it. Nothing much that can be done about
that, or should be done about it really. Why should Bush 'work with' everyone, he disagrees with them. What possible compromise does anyone
think can be reached on the issue? Bush is pro-actively for pre-emptive war and he's for ammending the constitution itself to include his group's
own moral standards. Heck even the opposition in the last election was for
the war. They just argued that it could be fought slightly
differently. If the opposition had won then these guys would be the ones saying that they are being left out. Its a rare president that can 'cross
partisan lines' as the saying goes. Bush obviously isn't one of them, but there is no crime or great betrayal in that. He's partisan, he's a
hard-liner, but that in itself doesn't make him a monster.
He was trying to deliver a note to President Bush.
Ah, so it wasn't an anti-war protest or really an anti-administration protest really. They guy's a loon. The other articles noted that he tried to
give an envelope or letter to the guards, and then set himself on fire. I also recall that lots of iranians were immolating themselves recently over
in iran. Might be a cultural thing. Not the attempt at suicide, the choice of fire.