posted on Oct, 12 2013 @ 03:49 PM
I realize I may be in the minority with my thoughts here, but someone has to call a spade a spade, and I have the guts to take the inevitable heat for
I want everyone to remember this famous quote before they type any word-vomit which doesn't further an adult discussion...."Those that cannot
attack the thought, instead attack the thinker."
While I apologize I cannot post links or embed, you all have heard of the things I will bring up and they are facts which cannot be disputed.
There have been many threads posted regarding military vets as of late. Most recently, a thread appeared in the Rant section about a Veteran who's
benefits have been cut due to the US Government shutdown. That post compelled me to make a thread about why we, the American People, don't owe any
vets anything. In fact, I'd go as far as saying many vets should be brought up on TREASON charges.
This is my argument:
The main complaint I hear from veterans, mainly from the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan is they don't get the respect they deserve for their service which
they claim "protects the freedoms of the US of A". More recently, I hear grumblings about benefits being cut to veterans and their families and how
WE, the American subject, should honor our side of the contract that they signed. The veteran almost always closes their argument saying something to
the effect of,"I signed an oath to protect America from all enemies, both foreign and domestic. WE deserve respect."
Here is why their complaining should fall on deaf ears:
They entered into a contract which includes upholding the Constitution of the United States, The Geneva Convention, and protecting the mainland from
all enemies both foreign and domestic. They ALL have violated that agreement...hence, they should get NOTHING. Here are some examples of
violations....egregious violations I might add.
2011: An Apache Helicopter is directed to a small town in Afghanistan. The Apache is ordered to fire on what is believed to be enemy insurgents. In
fact, the "insurgents" are ALL media personel who are covering the war. The Apache fires on them, and kills them all, while the operators of said
Apache proceed to laugh about it. This video is readily available for view on YT.
2012: A drone strike is authorized on what is claimed to be terrorists. These "terrorists" are later found to be American citizens...a father and
his sixteen year old son. No warrant. No trial. Just an arbitrary death sentence...of a CHILD.
2003-2011: US forces in Iraq are using Depleted Uranium rounds. This is a direct violation of the Geneva Convention and HUMAN RIGHTS. These rounds
now litter every city and town in Iraq causing radiation burns, deformed births, and even death of NON COMBATANTS and will continue to do so for
There are hundreds more examples I could include of how our dear vets have violated not only the contract they signed, but violated humanity as a
whole, but I digress.
By following the orders which facilitated the above examples, the veterans have made us, the American public, accessories to WAR CRIMES. Hence, they
violated any contract that they signed.
To take this a step further, they have also violated their oath to defend the US against all enemies foreign and domestic both by following the orders
to fire on American citizens, and by allowing the present corrupt government to continuously violate the exact Constitution they swore to uphold by
not immediately marching to Washington to take this country back.
Knowing all this, we still have veterans complaining that their benefits are cut off or diminished. This is called paying lip service. On one hand,
they claim WE THE PEOPLE have violated a contract and we should continue giving them full benefits, while not realizing it is THEM that have violated
both the contract and their OATH to protect this country.
I, for one, don't like being an accessory to the murder of citizens without a trial. I don't like knowing I helped facilitate the murder of
countless children in Iraq due to the bombardment of their country by radioactive rounds. The old,"I was just following orders" excuse is a cop out
tantamount to Nazi Germany and the Nuremberg trials. It didn't work then, it doesn't work now.
I'm not saying that I despise veterans or anything. Hell, I don't have the testicular fortitude to do what they do. However, I hate the fact that
they are forcing me to become a war criminal by proxy.
In closing, I don't feel that. veterans deserve any respect when its demanded, like it usually is. I don't feel the American public should continue
to facilitate the notion that somehow our veterans deserve free medical care via VA Hospitals, death benefits, or free college.
If they want those things, they should keep their end of the ccontract and OATH, and Id have no problem giving them whatever they want. I know war is
an ugly thing, but using that as an excuse to facilitate the actions of the exact corruptness they vowed to protect us from is a redundant
I will await a valid argument to what I've posted. Calling me a shill or names in general isn't an argument...its a cop out for someone who
doesn't have the cognitive ability to put forth a valid opinion.
Thanks for reading and I look forward to hearing from you ATS.