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I have noticed that in many variety entertainer areas there are internal famous people. For instance there will be ventriloquists who seem famous to ventriloquists, but that nobody else knows: people involved in ventriloquist orgainsations etc... The same will go for juggling etc. My question is: has the occult and magick gone down this same path? Has it become so insular that people seek fame within it? Has it been taken over by grey men who love to run organisations?
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In things like ventriloquism those internally famous apparently seem to be universally crap at ventriloquism. I heard it is the same for those magic trick people: all the internally famous ones are crap. I suppose occultists seem to be cleverer because the most famous ones never get seen actually having to produce results at all. Alisteir crowley never made public predictions testing his occultism., or cast spells that would show public results. The same holds true today. Those who do work in the occult in public: occult consultants like myself produce results publicly: but vagueness and running societies and publishing books that are secret to all but those who join, seems to be the route Alisteir Crowley took and many have followed.