"Obamacare worst thing to happen to the U.S. since slavery"

darkbake

burdman30ott6

ScottProphhit
Title alone, where would America be without slavery?

A lot more open, liberated, and less manipulated. One of the byproducts of slavery has lived on and continues to significantly shape the country is the racial division which it represented before, during, and after emancipation. That division *may* have never been available for use as a manipulative, divisive tool by the media and leftist chatterboxes had slavery never existed in America.

Less divisions equals more United, as in United States of America.

Where would America be without slavery?

Well... a relevant question, as slavery is coming back big time now.

We are headed towards a slave state, and that a lot of this has been driven by the fact that people will blindly follow their party lines over a cliff.

Look at how extremist and totalitarian both sides are, there is no safe haven for someone who just wants to be happy. And in my opinion, if you cut right down to the bottom line,

Both sides are working together to promote a totalitarian agenda against everyone's best interest.

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This can only happen if we as individuals allow it to, the only people I see following anyone over a cliff are those that depend on the government for there whole life and have no intention of taking responsibility for themselves.......they really have no where to go but over the preverbal cliff.

Your last paragraph I agree with but I'm hopping that's just because we have a government at this point where all the corruption and agenda's are coming together in what appears to be chaos and they implode on themselves......just an opinion.

reply to post by neo96


When you paint with a broad brush like that I am inclined to agree with you, I was trying to stick to the original post.

Ben Caron is the guy who compared gays to pedophiles and practitioners of bestiality isn't he?

You yanks have a really strange idea of what constitutes "socialism" too - most of your "socialism" is way to the right of countries like Australia, UK, New Zealand, etc.

Your rabid fear of anything "socialist" would be amusing if it wasn't also part of what is driving your greatest country on earth into a laughing stock!

reply to post by ScottProphhit


Man, never engage a white American on what happened with the Native Americans, you think saying that they enslaved them was bad I remember someone tried to put forth that they were the original land owners of America as the Aboriginals are in Australia and well, how do you think that was received.

Aloysius the Gaul
Ben Caron is the guy who compared gays to pedophiles and practitioners of bestiality isn't he?

As noted in the initial post, I don't agree with everything he says.

Doubt if many who posted here do either. Just my opinion.


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I still say the Native Americans should have sunk every European boat within bowshot.

reply to post by darkbake

Where would America be without slavery?

Well... a relevant question, as slavery is coming back big time now.

We are headed towards a slave state, and that a lot of this has been driven by the fact that people will blindly follow their party lines over a cliff.

Look at how extremist and totalitarian both sides are, there is no safe haven for someone who just wants to be happy. And in my opinion, if you cut right down to the bottom line,

Both sides are working together to promote a totalitarian agenda against everyone's best interest.

Assuming " Both sides are working together to promote a totalitarian agenda against everyone's best interest ",

Which side is more dominant in furthering that agenda ?

And more importantly, who or what is at the *next* level ?

PLAYERONE01
reply to post by ScottProphhit

 

Man, never engage a white American on what happened with the Native Americans, you think saying that they enslaved them was bad I remember someone tried to put forth that they were the original land owners of America as the Aboriginals are in Australia and well, how do you think that was received.

IS that right ?

Then do tell why is the FACT that native Americans killed off and enslaved their own kind long before the Europeans ever came over?

Native American's were victims ?

Of who?

Talk about revisionist history, and the history that ignores the world largest slavery empires, and land grabs of Asia,Africa, and the middle east, and Europe.

neo96
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Are you serious? Have you even looked at where your tax dollars go? The US wastes so much ____'ing money on so much GARBAGE, and some people actually think giving out free healthcare is the descent into evil pinko communism?

It is.

And the majority of that government waste is paying for peoples existence.

Not the job of the state to provide the wants of the people.

That is up to themselves.

17 trillion dollars in debt ,and the trillions more tell the truth to everyone paying attention.

Take money from the people so they can go out and line corporate pockets even more so than they already are.

If you only knew how much our Massa made off of our tax dollars they reinvested last year you'd really see the game. American's made about 5 trilion net last year and the government not counting the taxes they took in made 15 trillion on investments that are not counted in the general budget.

So, they take it and put it in all kinds of funds which by law are allocated for this and that rainy day thing and say they are broke and need to raise taxes when in truth, they just have to RE-allocate by the swipe of a pen those funds to pay DOWN the debt, but no one wants to face the truth in the comprehensive annual financial reports. It's a huge Ponzi scheme.

I started a thread on it but people will not get into boring accounting facts which are right there in black and white. They wanted to bust Capone for his murder and nasty criminal stuff, but what did they finally nail him on? Tax evasion which isn't sexy but put him away.

We have all the money we could ever want or need, but it is hidden in plain sight.

Eryiedes
"Free Healthcare"

I hear this nonsence a LOT so let's clear something up right here and now...

IT'S NOT FREE...YOU ARE TAXED FOR IT WHETHER YOU USE IT OR NOT...MORE THAN IF YOU ACTUALLY DECLINED AND PAID THE FINE!!!

The next time someone says "free healthcare"....you can ignore them because they have NO CLUE what they are talking about.

-Amitaba-

You are taxed for everything. Technically anything given to you by government is not "Free" and could never be, if you want to argue semantics.

But I digress, think of all the truly free stuff, free police beat downs and tazerings, free trumped up charges, free jail stays, free court costs, free penitentiary stays. You know, if you happen to say the wrong thing...

neo96


Then do tell why is the FACT that native Americans killed off and enslaved their own kind long before the Europeans ever came over?

Oh, did they now? So who did these small tribes sell slaves to? Other small tribes? That makes sense. What did they slave for? They had no #en currency

boncho
But I digress, think of all the truly free stuff, free police beat downs and tazerings, free trumped up charges, free jail stays, free court costs, free penitentiary stays. You know, if you happen to say the wrong thing...

You get just as much tyranny as you are willing to put up with.
That's the way it was, is and will be forever more.
At least that's how it was described to me when I was little.

-Amitaba-

ScottProphhit

neo96


Then do tell why is the FACT that native Americans killed off and enslaved their own kind long before the Europeans ever came over?

Oh, did they now? So who did these small tribes sell slaves to? Other small tribes? That makes sense. What did they slave for? They had no #en currency

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So never heard of tribes fighting and killing each other off and taking the women and kids as slaves ?

Did the same thing to 'white' settlers.

Why the hell does that get left out?

Small tribes?

There have been historical reports of 50 to 100 million native Americans before disease whiped most of them out.

neo96[/I]

So never heard of tribes fighting and killing each other off and taking the women and kids as slaves ?

Did the same thing to 'white' settlers.

Why the hell does that get left out?

Small tribes?

There have been historical reports of 50 to 100 million native Americans before disease whiped most of them out.

Nah because they didn't take them in as slaves, they'd take them in as their own? They never ever did anything to 'white settlers' except out of self defence.

And that just makes it a bigger crime?

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