reply to post by John_Rodger_Cornman
Why do liberals think libertarians are conservatives? I would say the answer to that question is an awful lot simpler than you might have been lead to
Basically, the fact is that the political spectrum in the USA is amongst the most convoluted, over complicated, highly divided, and impenetrable
constructions of its kind, in the whole world. And it's little wonder therefore, that the American public cannot tell the difference between left and
right (politically speaking), let alone liberals and libertarians.
It's precisely the same reason that commentators can get away with calling Obama a socialist without being lambasted from every angle, and the same
reason that ignorant oafs can be forgiven for believing that Hitler was a left wing political leader, when in Europe (the continent where the
left/right paradigm was first initiated in any meaningful way, and therefore where correct understanding of the difference is the norm, rather than a
product of a university education) he is known to have been a far right political and military dictator, despite the (rather obvious) ruse of having
called his party the Nazi party, national socialist party....
It wasn't socialist any more than I am a bloody conservative.
But you cannot blame the electorate in the USA for not knowing the true direction of any one of the parties and/or movements in the US. The fact is
that the various parties and "grass roots" movements in the United States, have more in common, than they ever do to tell them apart. The largest
(and most dominant) parties have power at their foremost concern, and are headed pretty much exclusively by psychopaths. I do not mean to say, that
every big ticket political face is hiding a serial killer, baby eating, nut bar of course, I am talking about the psychological condition.
These would be, people who have an inherent ability to lie, manipulate, dissemble, people who have no moral boundary constraining their own success.
What a good politician would achieve through honesty, respect for his fellow man, love for all the citizens he or she aims to represent, and a genuine
ability to empathise with everyone from the lowest gutter dweller to the highest and mightiest Brahmin, the current batch achieve through sniping,
backbiting, dirty deals, and perfectly delivered lies, aimed at a vulnerable and defenceless audience, the public. The only thing to chose between
them, so it seems, is which TYPE of BS they intend to force feed the public.
No matter which of the big two get in, there will be BS, no one will look out for the little guy, and whatever problems remain in the system will
still be there by the end of this administration, and the one after that, and the one after that, and it will never end as long as people keep
allowing folk who LIKE power, to actually have any.
In summary then. People confuse libertarianism with conservatism because they have never learned any better, and because decade upon decade of lies,
deals, cheating, manipulating and money grubbing have rendered all political parties and candidates so similar to one another, that to chose between
them is a greater sin than to abstain from voting at all, and makes the choice between them a mere matter of whose face appears the most honest, whose
manifesto is the most positive. It's all lies, and all irrelevant.
The question should not be, why do people confuse affiliations in political groups. The question ought to be, why are people still being fooled by
this utter rot? Mind you, I saw a thread title in myATS earlier on, which went something like 60% of Americans would fire congress... Perhaps things
are finally looking up!