reply to post by bitsforbytes
Some are content in ignorance, but fortunately for you society hasn’t listened to ignorance and has come to realize the benefits of science in
exchange for relinquishing its grasp of ancient fairy tails, no matter how comforting they are.
I for one am grateful to live in an age where I can share in understanding at least a little of our wondrous Universe instead of making up primitive
and childish fables to explain it.
If it were up to fellow delusional, brainwashed creationists, we’d still be spending our winter nights living in caves huddled around campfires
praying to a magic sky daddy to make our lives better, instead of huddled around our computers laughing at dipsh#t creo's.
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Why do you harbour so much dislike towards the creationist?
I am not a creationist by any means, never believed in any single religion and spent the majority of my life as a stone-cold atheist, but recently I
have become A LOT more 'spiritual', or open to these sorts of ideas. I don't understand why people believe that a creationist approach is completely
incompatible with science?
I mean, you sound like you believe you are SUPERIOR (I've noticed many people embrace darwinism as an excuse to be patronizing and dislikeful towards
the less mentally able and rational of our society) to these creationists because you have been 'awakened' to science or what not. It wasn't even your
choice to be like that, you were simply gifted with a brain and personality that allowed you to not be misled down that route. Why do you hold hate
and use words like 'delusional/brainwashed/dip#' to describe a creationist? That is what weak human beings do in my opinion - do not laugh and prey on
those that you perceive as gifted less by the virtue of nature, man. No one really 'CHOOSES' to be a creationist, it is simply what the combined
effect of their default properties (genetics/future brain capacity and so forth) along with their earthly experiences led them to believe.
Perhaps if you defined creationist a bit further you would enlighten me to your attitude. For now lets define a creationist as someone who believes
this universe and all it's subsequent inhabitants (organic or not/living or not) were created via a 'conscious' force - rather than chance. Why is
this so ridiculous to you? Our universe shares many parallels with a video game - why is it so CRAZY AND DELUSIONAL AND STUPID to assume that perhaps
our universe is a subset of something higher? This isn't incompatible with any science at all. Infact certain science seems to POINT TO THIS.
Creationism or the belief of a higher force didn't stop many great thinkers and scientists from progressing our society, so why assume we'd all still
be cavemen if we held this ideology? The Egyptians were greatly advanced for their time, yet they were CONVINCED of their Gods and pretty much
dedicated 90% of their writing to them. They weren't cavemen by any means, and were arguably the turning point from a primitive culture into an
advanced one - begininning a wave of progression that takes us to this stage.
Think of it like this - in the future we WILL have supercomputers able of real-time processing and storing something as complex as the unfolding of a
universe along with the associated physics/constants/variables and so forth. I also imagine in the future we should be able to 'hijack' someones
senses, delivering a 'virtual' input to their senses rather than the input from our everyday standard physical reality (this should be possible as our
brain decodes our input data via Fourier Transforms, much like a computer makes sense out of a sensor). Once a person is plugged into this 'world',
they are effectively living in a new universe, created by us, and their soul would be their original human body, using their new virtual body to
explore this new and interesting 'virtual' world. Why is it unbelievable for you to consider that this may HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED? It is a geniune
possibility, not just the ramblings of uneducated, fairy-tale believers.
I believe an Oxford professor wrote a fairly convincing paper a decade ago saying from a probabilistic point of view, we are more likely to be living
in one of these simulated universes rather than the 'original' one. Food for thought. Mainstream science now postulates an infinite amount of
universes, yet it is still cool to degrade people who believe these universes have a purposeful source. It doesn't make sense to me anymore why people
are so close minded to these things, like there's a straight divide between two sides and both think the other side is stupid while neither have
attempted to look at the bigger picture and leave themselves still open to ideas. It's brilliant being able to understand and appreciate science -
believe me, I hold a masters degree in Mechanical/Elec engineering and work for a Nuclear Engineering company, I am by no means a silly, gullible
'fairy-tale' believer. But this doesn't mean you have to lock off from the possibility of spirituality or higher meaning.
Evolution and creationism are completely compatible. Every single scientific discovery is completely compatible with creationism. Perhaps not RELIGION
AND THE RELIGIOUS TEXTS - but that is not the same as creationism - which is far broader and less-defined (i.e doesn't attempt to define the creator's
will/purpose/desire and ultimately the creator's story).
I'm not saying this line of thinking will solve any world problems, or suddenly provide a meaning for life. I'm simply saying that it is plausible
that we exist in a created environment, and may not be the ORIGINAL - hence us having a creator. I personally believe there might just be slightly
more to all of this than just chance, but I couldn't place my finger on it let alone attempt to make people believe in some objective creation story
(which is why I of course oppose religion generally). It's a feeling I've developed throughout my life due to many experiences and logical ponderings
- like I said before, I didn't choose to have this feeling just like a hardcore Christian didn't choose to fall for the belief - it just happened.
And please don't turn around and say 'but there's no evidence for creation!!'. There is an equal lack-of evidence towards either answer (chance or
non-specific creation - the big bang satisfies both), so the simple option is often chosen by 'logical' thinkers to avoid an infinite-loop of
creation. That by no means detracts from the other option's credibility.
However, I'm sure we could both agree on the fact that those who DISCLAIM or IGNORE scientific evidence in favour of religious texts are of course to
an extent 'delusional'. Perhaps denial would be a better word.
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