Is Satan both the Holy Spirit and God’s wife or Asherah?

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posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 04:50 PM
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Is Satan both the Holy Spirit and God’s wife or Asherah?

In the beginning, if we follow the more common Christian dogma, we find the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit alone in the whole universe.

For some reason, the Holy Spirit holds the highest rank and we know this because we can curse both the Father and Jesus and be forgiven but we will not be forgiven for cursing the Holy Spirit. Jesus, as man’s forgiving force thus put’s the Holy Spirit above himself and God the Father.

As above so bellow. In my family the only one both my children and I defer to is my wife and their mother.


In pondering what Eden was like and why God would have done the foolish thing of casting Satan to Eden, one can only say that that must have somehow been God’s best move. God would not put an enemy in his garden so Satan must have been good and not evil. This is irrefutable. The only worthy helper then for God would have been the Holy Ghost and it must then be who we know of as Satan and if God deferred to her then she is his Asherah or wife.


In esoteric terms this also makes sense as we have to go through fire/Satan to reach God. Note the burning bush.
In real terms, we all know that to move the man of the house to buy, it must first be sold, generally speaking, to the woman.

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Eve had to go through Satan/fire to reach wisdom and a moral sense that as God said was as sophisticated as Gods own moral sense. That is why Adam followed so sheepishly. As Man’s guide, Satan was given the power to deceive the whole world and God gave Satan dominion over the whole earth. A huge reward from God to Satan and this passing on of such a great power also makes me think Satan is God’s wife.

God in Job is seen as under Satan’s control as it has God stating that Satan moved him to do evil. Logic then says that Satan is in control of God. To this point, as shown, we have God deferring to Satan yet again.


Who have men of power ever deferred to?

Only their wives or other men of power. Kings have always fought for Queens, family and country.

From our human POV, we see God deferring to Satan both in punishment of cursing and also in Eden . If both men and God defer to women as the usual form, then Satan logically is God’s wife or Asherah.

Asherah thus rules heaven and earth and if as above so below then women on earth should rule over men.

There is a hymn that says of Adam’s sin that it was a happy fault and a necessary sin.
God made sure it happened by putting his best in charge of the earth and Eden. His wife or Asherah, Satan. God’s greatest love is Satan just as a man’s greatest love is his wife hence the great rewards heaped onto Satan by God.

I know that we are all conditioned to think of Satan as a mean man tempting us. Please try to think of him as a her the way Michael Angelo and the Pope did.

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There can be no other logical explanation for God putting Satan in Eden and why God rewarded Satan so nicely.
God does not reward evil, he rewards good, --- and so Satan must be good and if so then his being God’s wife or Asherah is quite logical.

Do you agree or do you think God rewards evil?

Regards
DL
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posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 05:04 PM
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Satan is God's right hand man. He's more important than Jesus. They are very much in cahoots in the human soul dealing business.
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posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 05:06 PM
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ItCameFromOuterSpace
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Satan is God's right hand man. He's more important that Jesus. They are very much in cahoots in the human soul dealing business.


hmm... I don't know about that one...

Me thinks ye got the hands screwed up...




posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 05:16 PM
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'Do you think God rewards evil?'

Somewhere in there, Huey, Duey and louie were forgotten...or HB's Tom, Jerry and Spike and Tyke...I may have missed some...Roadrunner and Coyote...2000+ years and you could construct convincing arguments around anything...

Å99



posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 05:24 PM
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Satan is God's right hand man. He's more important that Jesus. They are very much in cahoots in the human soul dealing business.


That would explain his rewarding Satan for sure.

Regards
DL



posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 05:25 PM
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Akragon

ItCameFromOuterSpace
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Satan is God's right hand man. He's more important that Jesus. They are very much in cahoots in the human soul dealing business.


hmm... I don't know about that one...

Me thinks ye got the hands screwed up...



How do you explain God rewarding Satan?

Regards
DL



posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 05:28 PM
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Greatest I am

Akragon

ItCameFromOuterSpace
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Satan is God's right hand man. He's more important that Jesus. They are very much in cahoots in the human soul dealing business.


hmm... I don't know about that one...

Me thinks ye got the hands screwed up...



How do you explain God rewarding Satan?

Regards
DL


Why shouldn't one of his angels get a reward?

He does his job apparently right?




posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 05:32 PM
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Yeah! If you take the bible literally, Satan wins in the end. Only like, 10 people are good enough to go to heaven while Satan gets the rest.
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posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 05:34 PM
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Greatest I am

Akragon

ItCameFromOuterSpace
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Satan is God's right hand man. He's more important that Jesus. They are very much in cahoots in the human soul dealing business.


hmm... I don't know about that one...

Me thinks ye got the hands screwed up...



How do you explain God rewarding Satan?

Regards
DL


It's inherent in the internal logic of the mythos...why wouldn't that explain it?

Å99



posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 05:39 PM
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akushla99

Greatest I am

Akragon

ItCameFromOuterSpace
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Satan is God's right hand man. He's more important that Jesus. They are very much in cahoots in the human soul dealing business.


hmm... I don't know about that one...

Me thinks ye got the hands screwed up...



How do you explain God rewarding Satan?

Regards
DL


It's inherent in the internal logic of the mythos...why wouldn't that explain it?

Å99


Stumped me. That does not happen that often. Ouch.

What internal logic says that evil is to be rewarded?

Regards
DL



posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 05:41 PM
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Akragon

Greatest I am

Akragon

ItCameFromOuterSpace
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Satan is God's right hand man. He's more important that Jesus. They are very much in cahoots in the human soul dealing business.


hmm... I don't know about that one...

Me thinks ye got the hands screwed up...



How do you explain God rewarding Satan?

Regards
DL


Why shouldn't one of his angels get a reward?

He does his job apparently right?



If God is in control of Satan, how is it that in the Job story, God states that Satan moved him to do evil without cause?

Regards
DL



posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 05:44 PM
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God states?

Where does "God" state anything?




posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 05:46 PM
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ItCameFromOuterSpace
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Yeah! If you take the bible literally, Satan wins in the end. Only like, 10 people are good enough to go to heaven while Satan gets the rest.
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Indeed and that adds fuel to my fire of Satan, as Asherah, being the ruler of heaven and earth.

God cannot be seen as loosing any of the 100% of the universe that he began with. No backsliding allowed for God.

Regards
DL



posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 05:48 PM
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Akragon
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God states?

Where does "God" state anything?





That is the mood we are in is it?

Oh well.

Regards
DL



posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 05:50 PM
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Greatest I am

Akragon
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God states?

Where does "God" state anything?





That is the mood we are in is it?

Oh well.

Regards
DL


LOL... ok i'll play along...

God made the devil to tempt man kind... thus he has a job description...

Why should he do his job if he gets no reward?




posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 05:54 PM
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Akragon

Greatest I am

Akragon
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God states?

Where does "God" state anything?





That is the mood we are in is it?

Oh well.

Regards
DL


LOL... ok i'll play along...

God made the devil to tempt man kind... thus he has a job description...

Why should he do his job if he gets no reward?



I agree. Fair pay for fair work.

How can we resist though when he can deceive us all and when he does, God punishes us instead of Satan.

Does that not seem like a set up?

If not, how would you describe that situation?

Regards
DL



posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 06:12 PM
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Interesting take on it for sure. I do believe Asherah as far as being half of the god/goddess paradigm for the ancient Hebrews but I never connected her to Satan.

What it made me think of, however, was the fact that a overwhelming majority of misogynists come from fundamentalists in the Abrahamic faiths where they have separate and harsher rules and inequality for women written in their very scriptures. Your theory would kind of explain why that is on a subconscious sociological level. Women = Satan while Men = Yahweh.

I would put more thought into it but Sumerian Mythology 2.0 (Abrahamic faiths) is something that's difficult for me to trust in the first place.



posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 06:36 PM
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Greatest I am

akushla99

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Akragon

ItCameFromOuterSpace
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Satan is God's right hand man. He's more important that Jesus. They are very much in cahoots in the human soul dealing business.


hmm... I don't know about that one...

Me thinks ye got the hands screwed up...



How do you explain God rewarding Satan?

Regards
DL


It's inherent in the internal logic of the mythos...why wouldn't that explain it?

Å99


Stumped me. That does not happen that often. Ouch.

What internal logic says that evil is to be rewarded?

Regards
DL


I'm sure there are situations where you could (according to your own internal logic) excuse yourself for perpetrating an act deemed 'evil' from the standpoint of a different situation...forgiving yourself is a step closer to forgiving others...smiles all 'round...

Å99



posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 06:46 PM
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Greatest I am

Akragon

Greatest I am

Akragon
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God states?

Where does "God" state anything?





That is the mood we are in is it?

Oh well.

Regards
DL


LOL... ok i'll play along...

God made the devil to tempt man kind... thus he has a job description...

Why should he do his job if he gets no reward?



I agree. Fair pay for fair work.

How can we resist though when he can deceive us all and when he does, God punishes us instead of Satan.

Does that not seem like a set up?

If not, how would you describe that situation?

Regards
DL


Well theres two ways to approach the question...

1. satan exists... in which case he is doing the job that was given to him...

2. satan represents "materialism"... in which case materialism deceives the world as it is clearly shown through out the world...

So is it a set up... of course...

Life is a test of what is within... One passes or fails according to such...




posted on Oct, 10 2013 @ 07:30 PM
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Asherah was the wife of El. Later, they began to associate Asherah with a pole later, but then tried to dismiss her altogether. But to say she was Satan, that's a big leap. Satan means adversary, and I guess if a woman would be your adversary then maybe she qualifies.

Asherah was a Canaanite goddess. You can find mention of her first in the Ugaritic text. Her primary role was mother. I suppose if your mother is your adversary, then she might qualify. But Asherah was not associated with evil and Satan. Asherah

The prohibition for the Mosaic Jews was against idol worship. By setting up poles to worship her as an idol became the issue, not "did she exist or not". She's in the Bible, you just have to look for her. She is Mother Wisdom, Hochmah.

While she was associated with the serpent and trees, then she would be the basis for Eve. But to say she is Satan, no, I'm not seeing that association. Satan in the Bible is always referred to as a male. But thanks for keeping the tradition alive of women viewed as the adversary to be avoided.

I guess it's a man's world after all.





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