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Hitler and Evas postcard from Argentina

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posted on Oct, 15 2013 @ 02:54 PM
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Comparing the supposed old man Hitler photo with real photo of him, it becomes obvious that even allowing for sagging skin and noses and ears growing with age, it ain't the same guy. Ear canal, nose, mouth, chin, all in the wrong place.




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posted on Oct, 15 2013 @ 05:14 PM
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Blue Shift
Comparing the supposed old man Hitler photo with real photo of him, it becomes obvious that even allowing for sagging skin and noses and ears growing with age, it ain't the same guy. Ear canal, nose, mouth, chin, all in the wrong place.




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The Pic of Hitler you have supplied isn't the same Hitler that was photographed outside the bunker with the Hitler youth. The nose is to aqualine. Have you any idea of the date of the picture that you have supplied. Good job by the way. henrymakow.com...



posted on Dec, 20 2015 @ 08:18 PM
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Hitler didn't escape to Argentina. Hitler's dentist was captured after the war by the Americans. Two of his dental techs were captured by the Russians. Each independently reconstructed the details of Hitler's dental work from memory. Their reconstructions meshed completely, and they fit with the details of the dental work on the jaw fragments attributed to Hitler AND to the skull X-rays taken of him by his doctor after the July 20 bomb attempt. Bottom line, there is solid forensic proof that Hitler died in Berlin. For a detailed account of the forensic exam go to www.nl-aid.org...



posted on Dec, 20 2015 @ 08:39 PM
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originally posted by: JessMee
Hitler didn't escape to Argentina. Hitler's dentist was captured after the war by the Americans. Two of his dental techs were captured by the Russians. Each independently reconstructed the details of Hitler's dental work from memory. Their reconstructions meshed completely, and they fit with the details of the dental work on the jaw fragments attributed to Hitler AND to the skull X-rays taken of him by his doctor after the July 20 bomb attempt. Bottom line, there is solid forensic proof that Hitler died in Berlin. For a detailed account of the forensic exam go to www.nl-aid.org...


With the yanks turning as many high ranking Nazis as they could get their hands on. Any story they put out has got to be spin.



posted on Dec, 29 2015 @ 12:52 AM
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a reply to: anonentity

Dr. Sognnaes' examination was not commissioned by US authorities, they were not involved in any way. From his report:

From the report by Sognnaes: ‘In 1968 the Russian writer Lev Bezymenski published in
West Germany a book entitled Der Tod des Adolf Hitler (The Death of
Adolf Hitler). Bezymenski’s book carried the subtitle Unknown documents
from Soviet archives. Thus, twenty-three years after the event, Soviet
sources finally permitted disclosure of details of the autopsy with
various dental and medical data on the death of Adolf Hitler as well as
Eva Braun, Goebbels and his family.’ ‘Heuserman, the chair-side dental
assistance of Hitler’s dentist, Blaschke was interrogated in a talk with
the Soviet Chief Expert of Forensic Medicine, Lieutenant Colonel
Shkaravski on May 11 1945, in the Office of CAFS No. 496. Frau Heuserman
described the state of Hitler’s teeth in every detail.’ ‘One of the
most important exhibits recovered from Soviet Archives concerns the
objective photographic evidence illustrating the remains of the
dentition of the corpse described in autopsy document Bo. 12. Included
were photographs of a fixed dental prosthesis, namely, a 9-unit bridge,
and the charred fragment of a mandible, the latter with several intact
anterior teeth and two bridges, one on the right and one on the left
side.’

‘The five X-ray plates attached are copies of originals found among Dr.
Morell’s records. They have been positively identified by him as well as
by Dr. Giesing as X-ray taken from Hitler. This was during the period
when Dr. Giesing was treating Hitler for ear injuring suffered at the
time of the assassination attempt on 20 Jul 44.’

‘In comparing the five X-ray plates located in the U.S. National
Archives, several principal observations emerge, which are considered of
major significance in correlating subjective and objective evidence
regarding the odontological identification of Hitler. Firstly, it became
clear that Hitler had only four remaining teeth which were not involved
in either bridging a gap or supporting a bridge between adjacent teeth.
Secondly, the X-rays indicate that the maxillary right central incisor
and left lateral incisor, while completely opaque to the X-ray beam, do
show short metallic posts for insertion into the root canals. Thirdly,
the X-rays show a very peculiar and very unusual dental bridge
construction on the right lingual aspect of the mandible. Fourthly, the
X-rays show that the left maxillary incisor has the very characteristic
feature of a partially opaque or metallic crown, typical of the now
outmoded, but in times past, not infrequently uses, window-crown.’
‘After careful study of the various types of descriptive, diagrammatic
and photographic evidence had been prepared with a view to summarizing
what, in our judgment, represented the dental status of Adolf Hitler.’
‘From the overall comparison of the odontological evidence we conclude
that the individual identified by means of the 1945 Hitler files located
in the U.S. National Archives in 1972, is the same person as that whose
1945 autopsy report was published in 1968 on the basis of the
previously unknown documents from Soviet Archives of 1945.’

‘Reappraisal of all documentary data – discounting legends, myths and
speculations – now provides definite odontologic proof that Hitler did
indeed die during the Berlin collapse of the Nazi dictatorship in 1945,
and that the Russians did in fact recover and autopsy the body of the
real Hitler.’

Yes, the US took Nazis who they thought might be useful, but that only went so far. Hitler and the top Nazis were too toxic to touch. Bear in mind that in the final days Goering and Himmler both tried to cut deals for themselves behind Hitler's back and were told in no uncertain terms to go # themselves. If they couldn't get deals, how would Hitler manage it? And what would they even get from him? Certainly no useful tech info, he didn't know any details of that, all of that was left to the scientists and techs who were doing the actual R&D work.
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posted on Dec, 29 2015 @ 12:58 AM
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posted on Dec, 29 2015 @ 01:06 AM
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originally posted by: JessMee
a reply to: anonentity

Dr. Sognnaes' report was not commissioned by US authorities, they were not involved in any way. Yes, the US took Nazis who they thought might be useful, but that only went so far. Hitler and the top Nazis were too toxic to touch. Bear in mind that Goering and Himmler both tried to cut deals for themselves behind Hitler's back and were told in no uncertain terms to go # themselves. If they couldn't get deals, how would Hitler manage it? And what would they even get from him? Certainly no useful tech info, he didn't know any details of that, all of that was left to the scientists and techs who were doing the actual R&D work.


Then how come when governments are involved in the dispatching of a foreign leader, they cut deals with the likes of Napoleon, Hirohito etc.. but when the mob gets them first like Mussolini they get offed. I would suggest some sort of pact exists as a war can go any way, and its a matter of luck which of the leaders survive. Assassination of foreign leaders just doesn't seem to happen , MI5 sent a directive to Churchill saying that it could easily take care of Hitler, but he refused to allow it.



posted on Dec, 29 2015 @ 03:39 AM
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originally posted by: anonentity

originally posted by: JessMee
Hitler didn't escape to Argentina. Hitler's dentist was captured after the war by the Americans. Two of his dental techs were captured by the Russians. Each independently reconstructed the details of Hitler's dental work from memory. Their reconstructions meshed completely, and they fit with the details of the dental work on the jaw fragments attributed to Hitler AND to the skull X-rays taken of him by his doctor after the July 20 bomb attempt. Bottom line, there is solid forensic proof that Hitler died in Berlin. For a detailed account of the forensic exam go to www.nl-aid.org...


With the yanks turning as many high ranking Nazis as they could get their hands on. Any story they put out has got to be spin.


Round objects. Kaltenbrunner, Speer, Frank, Goering, Hess, Ley, Von Ribbentrop and Rosenburg, amongst others, were all captured and ALL TRIED.



posted on Dec, 29 2015 @ 07:55 AM
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originally posted by: Shugo
reply to credible sources...refer me to some sources...I have some problems with these sources.... Primary sources are not always reliable...Are there any other references you can supply?...Does anyone have any resources for that?...not a valid argument...You are the one making the claims that you speak of. The burden of proof rests with you. It is not my job to do the research to support your claims...they're not considered valid resources either.... information I requested... Please provide sources to support the claims raised in this thread, or there is no discussion to be had here...you have not provided any peer reviewed sources...you have supplied no evidence or proof... it is the responsibility of the camp to find sources... you have not provided any evidence...Your word doesn't translate into fact... has no bibliography or citations to valid sources...another post in this thread without evidence... please provide a valid source where your claims are supported...no argument to support the idea... You have not supplied any sources which are valid and you have provided no proof, nor have your sources...has not been peer reviewed...Why should I do research to support your claims?...

On and on and on and on and on demanding sources and then shooting them down... then you've got the audacity to accuse people of derailing the thread and refusing to read the 'sources' you've been provided with. There's no 'burden of proof' here, it's a bloody discussion forum, not a formal debate or an intellectual shooting gallery. You're the one derailing what would otherwise be a really fascinating thread. Try to relax, you may actually learn something, particularly if you stop demanding sources and maybe pick up a book about it.



posted on Dec, 29 2015 @ 10:42 AM
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the current show, "hunting hitler", pointed out in it's first episode that no one actually identified hitler and eva's bodies. all that any saw were two bodies, wrapped entirely in blankets/rugs, being carried out of the bunker. they were soaked in gas and then torched. hitler's favorite personal pilot was seen taking off from berlin airport an hour later. a plane had taken off shortly before that carrying his personal affects.



posted on Dec, 29 2015 @ 01:10 PM
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There's 'evidence' Hitler died in the bunker. There's 'evidence' Hitler made it out of Berlin. All the 'evidence' for both scenarios is shaky to say the least. You don't have to be a 'scholar' to realise that.

Truth is.....no-one knows the fate of Hitler. Nothing has been proven at this point in time.

The narrative that Hitler was dead was necessary at the end of the war for mass psychology reasons. Hence the dodgy proof in light of the fact there wasn't any definitive proof.

It may have been 'proven' decades ago but it has since been debunked or at least shown to be 'NOT beyond reasonable doubt'.

People that cling to 'facts' that have 'reliable sources' that have been shown to be unreliable are no better than the scholars of old who cited 'facts' that had 'reliable sources' to prove the Earth was flat.

In other words........you're no better than a flat Earther.

I may not be a scholar (and let's face it we only have anecdotal, primary evidence that one contributor on this thread is.....evidence that as a scholar that contributor would, by his own scholarly admission, dismiss as being unreliable,) but I am intelligent enough to say: "We don't KNOW."




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