McDonald’s worker arrested after telling company president she can’t afford shoes

VoidHawk
What if there aren't any other jobs?

Then you have zero skills, no education, and no business aptitude for making money. Why is it always the people who HAVE to work at fast food places the first to spout out there there are NO jobs?

WOW!!! I seriously hope your local Mcd's staff know who you are!!

Why? So they can mess up his order? Wait... they already do that.

If I worked there you certainly wouldn't get good service from me!

Said EVERY McDonald's employee EVER. In fact, isn't that the employee Oath?

calstorm
I have to disagree. If you live in an area where there ARE no other jobs, and you have 6,000 people apply for a total of 12 jobs at a McDonalds like I used to then no, it's not really your fault because you don't have any other options available to you.
Where I used to live, there wasn't a minimum wage job that gave you more than 10-12 hours a week. It wasn't until I moved that I realized how bad things were there.

edit on 9-10-2013 by calstorm because: (no reason given)

Of course, when you says "JOB" you mean the lowest paying jobs available, because you have no education and no vocational skills, right?

Since when is "Interrupting" a valid arrestable offense

When it's interrupting profits. Our country is run by selfish, greedy business people and their slaves.

VoidHawk

You clearly live in an msm induced fantasy world.
Go and apply for a job, and when you dont get it ask them how many people applied for it. You'll find that for every job HUNDREDS will apply.

So what? Just because you aren't qualified for a job doesn't mean you should get one.

Fast food jobs are by no means "easy". I have worked as a nurses assistant, in product support for satellite radio, at numerous non-fast food restaurants and numerous fast food restaurants, I have worked at grocery stores, I have worked at a job doing vehicle detailing, etc. Do you want to know which job was the most demanding and stressful of them all? FAST FOOD. You often have one assigned position as you start out and more is gradually expected of you, you need to work cleanly, always have a smile, make little to no mistakes, work very fast, and kiss a lot of but if you want to move up the ladder.

I worked every position in the store at one restaurant with 3 years of experience. I worked drive through by myself during busy rushes(no easy task) made the food, took orders on front counter and maintained the cleanliness of the lobby/bathrooms, worked as a closer and an opener, washed dishes, etc. Often times I performed all of these tasks in one day while dealing with rude customers, extremely high volumes of customers, insane complaints, and many special requests, demanding bosses, and workplace drama. I was paid 20 cents over minimum wage after 3 years and being one if the fastest food makers and drive thru workers and had amazing customer service skills. My managers made about 20 to 30 cents more than me. I mostly worked as a closer until about 3 or 4 in the morning.

To say it is unskilled easy labor undeserving of higher wages is a load of crap.

honested3
reply to post by goou111

 

OP you are an ignorant, middle class, republican white man who makes $50k or more a year. Stop me when I am wrong. Because how many days in her shoes have you walked? And how many days at her job have you worked that you can say it requires zero work? You might think its people like this woman that degrade our society, but take a good look in the mirror, it is the opposite. That's all I will say about this because I cannot read these kinds of threads and see such ignorant people make these comments with no clue.

omg Mcdonalds was my first job when I was 16 years old I worked there for 3 f@@#in years and was making $4.25 an hour

I had to find another job when my gf now wife got pregnant . so I took a $5.50 and hour job doin floors at the K-mart and had to work at pizza place as a second job just to pay the dam bills

I have been on my own since I was 17 years old and have raised 2 kids working my ass off my whole life

People like you are the reason for this entitled generation. you think everything should just be given to you..

why the hell should you get more than minimum wage at a job you could literally train a monkey to do

It's a fast food place serving cheap food and it's able to be cheap because they pay low wages. If they put the wages up they have to increase prices then people would bitch about that.
Yes you can mow lawns for more money.

To me it's a great place for teens to join the workforce. Good after school or weekend job. It's not really for ambitious adults. Clearly a minimum wage job is not going to support a family.

seeker1963
reply to post by goou111

 

She should learn her place! /end sarcasm But isn't this is what it is coming too?

This is, sadly, what the world is coming to.

You must ask for permission, wait your turn, must not disrupt, or you will be arrested.

You may not disrupt any proceeding and you must not speak unless you have been asked or called upon to speak, and if we don't like what you say you will be arrested.

We will tell you when you can speak. And for how long. And what tone you can use. Or you will be arrested.

Conditioning for obedience.

Liquesence

seeker1963
reply to post by goou111

 

She should learn her place! /end sarcasm But isn't this is what it is coming too?

This is, sadly, what the world is coming to.

You must ask for permission, wait your turn, must not disrupt, or you will be arrested.

You may not disrupt any proceeding and you must not speak unless you have been asked or called upon to speak, and if we don't like what you say you will be arrested.

We will tell you when you can speak. And for how long. And what tone you can use. Or you will be arrested.

Conditioning for obedience.

When you make a federally mandated wage that is enforced by the federal government...

... that makes me, as a private employer... pay more than what I think you are worth (picking your nose while flipping burgers.. REALLY??? IS THIS ALL YOU CAN DO????)

I think... YES! You SHOULD WAIT IN LINE TO SPEAK!

Honestly: How many people in this thread own businesses an see the type of people they are FORCED to hire?

I think... not very many!

olaru12
reply to post by goou111

 

She wasn't arrested because she was trespassing or interrupting...

She was arrested because she was a malcontent in a corporate propaganda fest.

Now she will be fired, apply for workmens comp, and maka a lot more than min. wage.

and obviously she got her point across because it has hit the www. and someone even made a thread about it on ATS.

McD will shortly offer an apology because they know that this type of BS will lose them customers. I wouldn't eat that **** if they PAID ME!

edit on 9-10-2013 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)

Well said!

In my opinion this LADY has raised her voice just like millions of others SHOULD raise their voices, except they are too timid and cowardly, so "things" just get worse!

I am at a loss to understand why anyone uses that company who's name I shall never allow to pass my lips. I wish them out of existence for all the abuse they cause to their staff and the general public in terms of making such ill health.

Yes, you are free to eat their excuse for food, but I must say I don't comprehend why people support such a cancerous corporation on our planet!

WhatAreThey

Liquesence

seeker1963
reply to post by goou111

 

She should learn her place! /end sarcasm But isn't this is what it is coming too?

This is, sadly, what the world is coming to.

You must ask for permission, wait your turn, must not disrupt, or you will be arrested.

You may not disrupt any proceeding and you must not speak unless you have been asked or called upon to speak, and if we don't like what you say you will be arrested.

We will tell you when you can speak. And for how long. And what tone you can use. Or you will be arrested.

Conditioning for obedience.

When you make a federally mandated wage that is enforced by the federal government...

... that makes me, as a private employer... pay more than what I think you are worth (picking your nose while flipping burgers.. REALLY??? IS THIS ALL YOU CAN DO????)

I think... YES! You SHOULD WAIT IN LINE TO SPEAK!

Honestly: How many people in this thread own businesses an see the type of people they are FORCED to hire?

I think... not very many!

Pay a monkey's wage and you'll only get monkey work! They are a horrible abusive employer. If you abuse your employees with low wages and a nasty bullying work environment then expect subversion!

reply to post by aptrgangr


Obviously it doesnt take THAT level of skill, like I said in my post. If you are just a lazy idiot then you can get away without doing much i guess. I was a crew trainer and had more responsibilities, many of which required atleast "some form of skill", even if it wasnt near the level needed to create some tool. I think you are oversimplifying things.

If someone attains the "skill" necessary to forge knife blades and does so for a year, they will most likely have mastered the skill and be able to produce the product easily. They cant just walk in on day one and make it, they had to learn the skill to do so.

Same for McDonalds, after working their for awhile you (hopefully) should have mastered the "skills" necessary to do the job easily, but you cant just walk in on day one and do it. Sure you have pictures of the sandwiches for reference but it'll take you some time before you know them all and can make them within the 20 second limit the requirements ask for while also doing all off your other required tasks in between orders. Again, cooking/preparing food doesnt take nearly as much skill as other trades but to say it requires no skill is just false in my opinion.

And I never said it was difficult for me, I did the work of 3 people there and I did it well.
But I guarantee that a mentally handicapped person could not do the work I did, as most people seem to imply.

Im just glad I was one of the few who used the job to support going to trade school, repairing cars is a much more rewarding career.

violet
It's a fast food place serving cheap food and it's able to be cheap because they pay low wages. If they put the wages up they have to increase prices then people would bitch about that.
Yes you can mow lawns for more money.

To me it's a great place for teens to join the workforce. Good after school or weekend job. It's not really for ambitious adults. Clearly a minimum wage job is not going to support a family.

I think you are missing something in your commentary there!

Have you not noticed that nearly everyone is on the minimum wage these days. It is hard for most people to ever get beyond the minimum wage earning barrier.

The work environment is Marxist totalitarian territory these days. It's disgusting!

I'd rather be dead than have to live like that, being a good little robot unit making some guy money while I starve and have to give 90% of my wage in bills back to these robbers, so the share holder can have an ever increasing dividend value! F### that!

OrphanApology
Mcdonalds is not easy work. If you state the employees are overpaid that means you have never worked there. There are instances of Mcdonalds that have incompetent managers/employees but in many of the busier ones the owners are very strict as to speed etc.

With that being said if you are trespassing on private property and being disorderly it's not uncommon for the police to be called. The same thing would happen if you busted into board meeting at a corporation and started telling the CEO off.

However, if she was invited to attend then at that point she shouldn't have been arrested. To state someone is trespassing if they are invited is a lie. Escorted out sure, but certainly not arrested.

I agree. I've never worked at mcdonalds but I have worked food service jobs and you are on your feet all day having orders barked at you by stressed out people and some of the customers are just full of personal issues when they come into a restaurant. It takes a lot of energy to look at that many different faces or that many different orders for meager wages. I worked in a warehouse doing VERY strenuous work... constant lifting and enjoyed that job compared to food service MUCH better. I'd have to say telephone customer is even worse though... even if you get to sit down all day because are expected to handle each call within a few minutes or you get no raise...period, because the CEOs think it is easy work...without stopping in between calls so it's one after another and you are constantly talking... and not only is that hard but people are crazy when something is wrong with one of their services. On one hand you can't blame them because they over complicate customer service processes and business are constantly scamming their customers but to talk to people who start off the entire conversation with cursing and hollering get exhausting to talk to.

the funny thing about most people with higher paying jobs is that they have some crazy notion that there is just this huge list of well paying, gratifying jobs out there that companies just CAN'T fill. Sure, jobs often become available... and you may see that often, but they WILL get filled in short order...and then what? Well, CLEARLY there will STILL be unemployment. There will STILL be low paying jobs that people are too desperate and tired of fighting to stop working that low paying job.

You don't see the fat cats sharing their jobs. The policy and deal makers. they expect the lower class to just magically become the middle class and just make that whole lower rung just go away... but you don't see job sharing and reasonable wages among those people.

We do NOT need a culture that glorifies the upper class. That's a big part of the problem. There is where the true entitlement issue is. Some people think they are entitled to food...they ARE. SOME people think they are entitled to millions of dollars after a phone call.. they are NOT. Some of those upper class people do not know their heads from their asses but just socialize their way through through their ventures. It absolutely sickens me to see a society that condemns the lower class that it depends on so badly. If all service jobs just went on strike one day... ALL of them, private or not- there are some so called "movers and shakers" in the world that would soon begin to starve.

and who gets paid even less? Produce pickers...packagers...hell, A LOT of us would starve if they all went on strike.

Then you have garbage... endless piles of garbage... when we should have land and large gardens, producing less garbage for what we like to eat...and since we don't DON'T... they need to shut their mouths about the lower class!

reply to post by NotAnAspie


Well said..reminds me of the Tyler Durden speech.

Look, the people you are after are the people you depend on. We cook your meals, we haul your trash, we connect your calls, we drive your ambulances. We guard you while you sleep. Do not... f*** with us."

Fight club was ahead of its time.

tehdouglas
If someone attains the "skill" necessary to forge knife blades and does so for a year, they will most likely have mastered the skill and be able to produce the product easily. They cant just walk in on day one and make it, they had to learn the skill to do so.

Same for McDonalds, after working their for awhile you (hopefully) should have mastered the "skills" necessary to do the job easily, but you cant just walk in on day one and do it. Sure you have pictures of the sandwiches for reference but it'll take you some time before you know them all and can make them within the 20 second limit the requirements ask for while also doing all off your other required tasks in between orders. Again, cooking/preparing food doesnt take nearly as much skill as other trades but to say it requires no skill is just false in my opinion.

And I never said it was difficult for me, I did the work of 3 people there and I did it well.
But I guarantee that a mentally handicapped person could not do the work I did, as most people seem to imply.

Heh, define "mentally handicapped". Most people, and I DO mean most, can't seem to spell much less operate their own brains, but yes, you have a point with disagreeing with what some have said. I think it was all those commercials McDrek put out where they hire the Down's syndrome kid that convinced them.

Unfortunately a year of making blades has not made me a master. It's a little bit like a martial art, there is not end point, just the road which is never ending in the search for perfection. I've been making them for about two years and am decent but no master. My forge-master shames me with his work.

Also, the management position does require SOME skill, of that I have no doubt and the dumber and more unruly your employees are, the more skill it takes. Ever herd cats? I bet you have. I more meant the base level employee at fast-food is designed to be possible for the lowest echelon of intellect. After all, who the hell would work for those wages for ten years!? The ignorant and the flatly stupid.

boymonkey74

Fight club was ahead of its time.

Or right on time. Can we PLEASE blow up TRW and friends now? Okay so, not literally... Maybe... But at least cut the credit leash?

reply to post by goou111


This is what I think about all this;


Oh and then he got himself assassinated, but that was just a coincidence wasn't it? NO IT WAS NOT!

MOST PEOPLE in the work place are on minimum wages now. It is inescapable for most people to ever prosper beyond this lowest barrier threshold.

MOST PEOPLE have to pay 90% of what they earn back in bills.

THE MODERN WORK ENVIRONMENT is to all intents and purposes what I would describe as Marxist and Totalitarian. It is Marxist because one is expected to conform, all on the same wage, religion and spirituality being frowned upon if expressed; there is a manager class and a workers class.

It is Totalitarian because workers have so few rights. If you speak out about any issue you only get bullying and "the sack" in response. I KNOW! I have been that person!

ALL THIS so just a few shareholders can receive ever increasing dividends in the corporations WE SLAVE FOR.

This is not tolerable. If you pay a monkey's wage then please expect a monkey's labour (you know what that means).

Yes, when it comes to SLAVERY, bullying and abuse in the work place I am full on SUBVERSIVE! I will attempt to undermine such a system at every opportunity. I hate and despise it. I would rather be dead than conform as some robotic unit, living an impoverished and miserable existence, victim of a greedy corporation.

Be warned that unless WE do something about this miserable state of affairs the bills are just going to keep going up. The nature of usury and capitalism is to take advantage (the pyramid hierarchy and social structure). Food and energy prices will keep going up because the shareholders must have it that way.

Have you not seen how poor they are making us? Have you not noticed that the bills are going up, but the wages are not?

reply to post by Revolution9


On that score it was better when governments ran certain provisions of service.

But Reagan and Thatcher put an end to that. Why? This is why...how things are today.

Food and energy cannot be entrusted to private corporations. They are greedy and self serving in nature and have proved beyond all doubt that they have NO social conscience.

It is going to end up as what is so aptly described in Revelations as,

“A loaf of wheat bread or 3 loaves of barley for a day’s pay”. Three loaves of barley equal approximately one pint. This is generally regarded as a minimum sustenance diet. Therefore, this verse foreshadows a time when an entire day’s wage will barely yield enough food to survive.

Let James The Just conclude my commentary,

Warning to Rich Oppressors

5 "Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming on you. 2 Your wealth has rotted, and moths have eaten your clothes. 3 Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the last days. 4 Look! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty. 5 You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter.[a] 6 You have condemned and murdered the innocent one, who was not opposing you."

reply to post by ownbestenemy


Maybe she did address the wrong person about her wages but what I consider the good part is that she made this story happen and perhaps others will stand up for themselves. I've worked too many jobs where promises were made that were consistently never fulfilled; "raises every such and such, move to mgt. after blank time" etc. I can't count the number of jobs I worked where we never got raises even after several years of brutal inflation. When the boss owns a warehouse full of antique cars you know your work paid for it's hard to take NO for an answer when they refuse raises they even promised.
Beware states that do not honor verbal contracts when it comes to employment. I learned the hard way GET IT IN WRITING.