You mean how David killed Saul? WTF?
Do you mean that all the soldiers in all the wars are gay? They'll probably beat your face in for such an assertion, you need to understand male
This is why men are particularly anti-homosexual, because homosexuals take male bonding and make it a case for gay sex.
Okay, let's start by correcting my error of David and Saul, when I actually meant David and Jonathon.
Secondly, let me as a gay man touch on the subject of male bonding - I think you will find I know all about it.
As a gay person, whenever I meet another male in every day life, I automatically assume he is straight. There is at least a 90% chance that I am
correct, so why wouldn't I?
As a result I have met and shared some extraordinarily close emotional (yet entirely platonic) relationships with straight men. These men actually do
include several Army boys who love their gay drinking buddy because among other things they can hassle him about his sexuality and he just laughs it
off and gets them back with his own jokes about being straight.
A number of these men have told me that they have changed their views on gay people because of knowing me. i.e. they realise we gay people are no
threat and can make a good mate. In fact I find once they are over the initial fear that I am 'after them' they relax to the point where they act very
kamp and make me laugh out loud.
Some of the things I have learned are (these are generalizations, I know that there are exceptions)
* Men totally suck at showing their feelings.
* Most guys only begin to loosen up and show their true selves after a few drinks
* Men act all chauvanistic and alpha male in groups, but put a female (especially their Mrs) in their midst and they become all nice and polite all of
* Men, especially those in the armed forces and in situations where they rely on one another for their lives and / or safety do become very close.
They tend to form little 'tribes'
* Men do have close one on one mates, but there is absolutely no sexual connotations in their friendship.
So, all of this being borne in mind, here are a few of the verses on Jonathon and David that point to a very close relationship that to any gay person
seems like it was just a bit more that a blood brother relationship.
1 Samuel 18:1 - And it came to pass, when he had made an end of speaking unto Saul, that the soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and
Jonathan loved him as his own soul.
1 Samuel 18:3 - Then Jonathan and David made a covenant, because he loved him as his own soul.
1 Samuel 18:4 - And Jonathan stripped himself of the robe that [was] upon him, and gave it to David, and his garments, even to his sword, and to his
bow, and to his girdle.
1 Samuel 20:41 - [And] as soon as the lad was gone, David arose out of [a place] toward the south, and fell on his face to the ground, and bowed
himself three times: and they kissed one another, and wept one with another, until David exceeded.
1 Samuel 20:30 - Then Saul's anger was kindled against Jonathan, and he said unto him, Thou son of the perverse rebellious [woman], do not I know that
thou hast chosen the son of Jesse to thine own confusion, and unto the confusion of thy mother's nakedness?
Naturally any straight man is going to say that this is just a close friendship, because the thought of it being a gay one is so repulsive to them, we
all get that in the gay world.
BUT, guys stripping off naked and sharing clothes, then, crying and weeping over one another, being cursed by Saul for choosing 'the son of Jesse'....
I dunno from a gay person's perspective it's all pretty suss
Then of course there is the infamous declaration at Jonathon's funeral;
2 Samuel 1:26 - I am distressed for thee, my brother Jonathan: very pleasant hast thou been unto me: thy love to me was wonderful, passing the love of
I don't know of any bloke that would declare that he loved his mate more than his Mrs personally. Guys do get close, and they do enjoy one another's
company but at the end of the day most of them go home to what they truly love in life; their wife and family.
edit on 12-10-2013 by markosity1973 because: grammar