posted on Oct, 12 2013 @ 01:36 AM
reply to post by ImaFungi
Moral is the intellectual awareness of how to act. This is all that moral means. If I was congenitally kind, didn't give a thought to my kindness,
but I just was: is that moral? Of course not. Morality loses it's meaning in the absence of temptation. To the option of not doing what I want to
A dogs desire to protect it's family is NOT MORAL in rational sense of the term. It acts that way because the owner is the prime benefactor; it has
both emotional connections of trust and love towards them, as well as the more fundamental evolutionary instinct to seek it's own good. None of this,
however, is conscious for the dog. The dog is not sitting there thinking in dog language "I sure do love my family" reflecting on it as a human
would. To even think that wreaks of anthropomorphism.
That is the meaning of morals, knowing the value of life and choosing not to hinder life with ones actions.
Too bad you didn't even properly apply that definition to a species capable of moral evaluations.
When a dog is hungry and noone around to feed it, what stops it from eating a small child near by?
It thinks "I sure would love to eat that baby, but that would be morally wrong; it would be against the teachings of canine confucius". Sarcasm.
These examples are honestly ridiculous.
A dog doesn't eat a baby because it is not that kind of creature. A dog has the conditioning of thousands of years of domestication directing it's
instincts. It doesn't attack the baby because it is something dogs don't do; their instincts are primed to act in ways that are good for itself and
the pack. In ordinary times, a dog is fed and taken care of by it's owner. If a dog happens to be a stray, it learns to fear humans i.e stay as far
away from them.
Next you'll say Lions and Wolves are evil because they would eat the baby.
conscious beings as humans
Nobody denies they are conscious. How couldn't they be? The issue is WHAT are they conscious of? Morality is a useless construct for a dog. Moral
evaluations do not occur in any significant way. And by significant way I mean in the face of temptation.
If a dog shows sympathy to another dog which is being mistreated by the pack, it likely responds this way out of feeling - not a recognition that this
behavior is inherently morally wrong.
A dogs experience is conscious, but not conscious enough to be conscious of itself: a basic prerequisite for morality.
perhaps a worm or simple celled organisms.