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u think ur so knowledgeable, but u are totally ignorant of the place in which u exist. there are more things in this world than meet the eye of materialistic buffoons proporting themselves to be wise.
But you have no sovereignty over any other members at ATS. Though you think it you are better than other people its just a belief .
If you see yourself as a object living among other objects walking around on a object then you have not yet realized the true nature of things.
You know, therefore you are. Knowing comes before thinking. In the gap between two thoughts you are aware of something. And you know that you are aware.
I'll argue that while your post was really good, you are indeed trapped within your own false beliefs, lack of knowledge and perception about certain things...
Person 1 = less self-centered
Person 2 = extremely self-centered
[NOTE: I am not talking about doing these things sometimes, but only if they do this constantly.]
[Second NOTE: Again, most people aren't getting it. These things are CLUES, if it constantly happens that is a sign]
1) They continuously bring up their own experiences to relate to the topic.
Person 1: "It is better to forgive then to hold on to hatred."
Person 2: "It's better to just forgive because when I had that fight with James it just made things worse."
2) They give their opinion when it isn't need.
Person 1: "Religion allows us to see into the mind of ancient society."
Person 2: "Religion allows us to see into the mind of ancient society, but eww I hate that word."
3) They use the words "my" a lot instead of "the".
Person 1: "I want to use the computer."
Person 2: "I want to use my computer."
Person 1: "I want to get those new Jorden sneakers"
Person 2: "I want to get me my pair of Jorden's sneakers."
2) They only care about their point of view.
Person 1: "Your anger winded up embarrassing everyone we was with."
Person 2: "You made a scene and was embarrassing me (not considering others)."
3) They are very controlling [ 3 main forms mentioned]
(Trying to force others to be like them)
Person 1: "It's not healthy to think so negatively, but of course we all have a choice."
Person 2: "You need to stop that and think more positive, you are always being so negative!"
Person 1: "I don't like the way you speak to people so rudely, so if you don't stop I won't be around you."
Person 2: "You need to stop talking so rudely, if you don't stop - I'll make you stop."
(Calling people names)
Person 1: "It's ok if you don't want to do what I say, I understand."
Person 2: " You are so selfish and lazy for not doing whatever I ask you to do."
4) They think that they are better than everyone else, but give false humility.
Person 1: "If you continue to do this, eventually you will bring yourself into a world of drama."
Person 2: "I'm not perfect, but my way is better than your way - you need to stop that and be like me."
Person 1: "We obviously disagree, but if you want to debate it, that is fine."
Person 2: "Your point of you is irrelevant you are just a sheep, brain-washed, or deceived by the devil."
EDIT: Two more clues that hints at extreme self-centeredness
4) Making assumptions (especially if that assumption is just to get attention or argument)
Extermely self-centered person:
"There is nothing wrong with having ego and knowing the difference and boundaries between "me" and "you", we need it to survive"
The actual theme of the thread:
"How to know if someone is EXTREMELY self-centered"
Nothing to do with Ego being "good" or "Evil". Nothing to do with getting rid of the Ego completely. All of this is an assumption to argue - to argue against something that wasn't even said.
5) Conformity - Doing what everyone else does out of fear of being "criticized"
"It really doesn't matter what they think, everyone has their own opinions."
extremely self-centered person:
"I need to do this and that, I don't want people talking about ME."
This is an ATS thread from just last month.
How to tell if a person has a huge ego (is extremely self-centered)
First person is bad in September,
now in October second person is bad.
Will third person get trounced in November?
I think you guys should really make up our minds.
Whenever a spiritual leader tries to put themselves above the other person, I know that they are not a spiritual leader.
They are a self-serving person that wants to put themselves above another person by being in their driver's seat, instead of the person's own conscious thoughts.
The ones I tend to pay attention to the most and think they might have something worthy of listening to are the ones that speak from the term "we" and "us".
Because, no matter how "advanced" one is, there's always room to grow.
Not to say this was the case with you (dealing with spirituality, etc), but the thought applies across the board to anyone that considers themselves an expert.edit on 7-10-2013 by Jomina because: (no reason given)
reply to post by mikegrouchy
I didn't say first person wad "bad". I said Heavy usage MAY be an indicator of self centeredness.
And fron what I see, this person ia saying to be careful of those who use 2nd person WHEN they are assuming things about "you".
Did someone read a post of yours, note your opinion, gather their own opinion of how they think you view the world through the actions of your written words, and then express their own opinion of you and your possible world view from those written words? I believe it could be called criticism.
That's what I have gathered about "You" from "your" post.
People observe things. Take the world for example. Everyone observes the world and their surrounding environment, and creates their own world view.
If you were to ask a person what their point of view on what the world is like from all their observations, they could say things like "the world is a mess and here is a list of things wrong with the Earth and here is how we could change the Earth for the better."..
People do the same things to other people. "You are a mess and here is a list of things wrong with you and here is how I can change you and what I perceive to be your viewpoint." It's called someone's opinion which can also be known as criticism (whether good or bad).