There are only two super geniuses of science that I am aware of

reply to post by mikegrouchy

I love answering questions, but in this case, are the right questions being asked?

Interesting, are we to post dialog. Should I read from Que cards on what we are about to chat about. I mean if you want certain questions asked then maybe you should go ahead and say what they are.

putting aside the fact that the sentence starts with the word "but" and the word "I" is not capitalized.

What can I say, sometimes after doing thins a certain way for so long I get bored. I have been contemplating of starting sentences with the words "el brango". I dont know what it means, just some # I made up. But...But is getting old.

K, el brango with what verbiage should I express my lyrical styling's. Yo!



Anyways to go back on topic and like I said none of the people you have mentioned I would or really anybody would categorize as super genius, in fact the word "super-genius" just may belong in the world of comic books and movies and that only if you do not question or look to deep at the plot.

In fact now a days the only thing that may do it is either the Brain and his loveable sidekick Pinky with there hair brained scheme to bring about global warming by a weather machine of which the brain invented and would thereby flood the major cities and metropolises, were by he will buy out all the top floors of all the major skyscrapers and make a killing charging people a premium to live there, all in the process of becoming supreme overlord of the world.

That or lex luther, I think he once even outsmarted brainiac and superman together. All the people you mentioned were quite human, in fact they just seem to be more hype then anything else, everybody needs there heros and idols I suppose. But how are we supposed to take you serious when you say Lavoisier contends to be a super genius when he is quite obviously quite human. And not only that, but missing a head there at the end quite obviously, and as you mentioned. I mean how are we supposed to take a man who lost his head serious? You would think with all his super-genius he would have foreseen that at the very least if that were the case.

And yes, what exactly is credible. It may be no more difference then the fact that a bunch of people agree with it, but even if a bunch of people agree with it. It does in no way make it true, our whole history is full of such oxymorons. Some people agree that Lady Ga Ga is a credible artist. And many people agree that the credit system is quite credible. And yet its quite obvious none of those are true. And all you would need for your theory to take hold is merely more yay"s then ney's.

Simple really, in fact if you got enough yay's you would eventually be able to start a cult, and if you get more who knows maybe a religion. And if you get even more, well that would qualify as a form of government. I mean there are people who built statues of Ronald Reagan and proclaim he was the best president ever even starting fan clubs and cults and what not even today most people would use his name in a random conversations. But hey! who are we to argue? After all they got a statue and we dont.

And there are more Ronald Reagan statues and bubble head dolls, and books/merchandise then there are of Lavoisier. Which by all standards that would qualify Ronald Reagan as much more of a super-genius by way far then Lavoisier. In fact who the hell is Lavoisier anyways> You see nobody knows. Or cares.

galadofwarthethird

Anyways to go back on topic and like I said none of the people you have mentioned I would or really anybody would categorize as super genius, in fact the word "super-genius" just may belong in the world of comic books and movies and that only if you do not question or look to deep at the plot.

In fact now a days the only thing that may do it is either the Brain and his loveable sidekick Pinky with there hair brained scheme to bring about global warming by a weather machine of which the brain invented and would thereby flood the major cities and metropolises, were by he will buy out all the top floors of all the major skyscrapers and make a killing charging people a premium to live there, all in the process of becoming supreme overlord of the world.

That or lex luther, I think he once even outsmarted brainiac and superman together. All the people you mentioned were quite human, in fact they just seem to be more hype then anything else, everybody needs there heros and idols I suppose. But how are we supposed to take you serious when you say Lavoisier contends to be a super genius when he is quite obviously quite human. And not only that, but missing a head there at the end quite obviously, and as you mentioned. I mean how are we supposed to take a man who lost his head serious? You would think with all his super-genius he would have foreseen that at the very least if that were the case.

And yes, what exactly is credible. It may be no more difference then the fact that a bunch of people agree with it, but even if a bunch of people agree with it. It does in no way make it true, our whole history is full of such oxymorons. Some people agree that Lady Ga Ga is a credible artist. And many people agree that the credit system is quite credible. And yet its quite obvious none of those are true. And all you would need for your theory to take hold is merely more yay"s then ney's.

Simple really, in fact if you got enough yay's you would eventually be able to start a cult, and if you get more who knows maybe a religion. And if you get even more, well that would qualify as a form of government. I mean there are people who built statues of Ronald Reagan and proclaim he was the best president ever even starting fan clubs and cults and what not even today most people would use his name in a random conversations. But hey! who are we to argue? After all they got a statue and we dont.

And there are more Ronald Reagan statues and bubble head dolls, and books/merchandise then there are of Lavoisier. Which by all standards that would qualify Ronald Reagan as much more of a super-genius by way far then Lavoisier. In fact who the hell is Lavoisier anyways> You see nobody knows. Or cares.

The quoted post above is very useful to me.

The choices for comparison to Lavoisier and Einstein are two Media Figures, Cartoon characters, and Reagan. Interesting. It's almost as though there is a collusion in the worlds of Media and Education in this country to get our children to automatically discount the idea of achieving genius. That, it would be a "hair brained scheme" as you put it.

Maybe this entire discussion should be in the Education and Media forum of a conspiracy site.

Since that is exactly where I posted the thread, and this is exactly where the discussion has come, the word interesting doesn't begin to cover it. Either way. Citing a cartoon, to discount genius shows a level of social conditioning that may not have been so obvious to a few readers otherwise.

Even if only one person is now more aware of how deep the conditioning of the public goes against believing in our selves, and each one of us being capable of genius, believing in each other, this discussion has helped. And by extension one can begin to reexamine the mischaracterization of loving relationships as taught to us by Media and Education. I ask the lovers of America, do you really fear scientific collaboration with a partner because you fear becoming "pinky" in relation to "the brain?" Or becoming a "brain" style egomaniac in relation to "pinky." If so, just admit that those are cartoon characters, and have no power to stop us. Unless we let them.

Mike

Instillation of Pyron Solar Triad


Who developed this innovative solar generator?

John and Inge Laing, married physicists who have worked together since they met as students at the University of Karlsruhe in Germany, hold more than 300 patents and have a successful commercial track record.

More than twenty years,
working together, and
the hits just keep coming.

Mike

In India, couples who work together are celebrated.

Yahoo / Power duos: 10 Famous couples who work together

Mike

Why is it that when I search for the string
+"Married couple discovers" the results are
towards the negative, or pro-Disney?






Is there some inherent overtone in our Culture,
that Married Couples don't discover things unless
it's bad or pro-corporate?

Couples have made some great discoveries in
Science. But not according to the world wide
web of lies.

Mike

reply to post by mikegrouchy


Ya well it could be. Or it could be to much of pushing unto one way in such extremes has an adverse effect, not that much different then flooding the market of any product actually brings down the value of that product, as we seen time and time again with currencies of other nations and even whats going on now a days with the dollar.

But who knows eh. It would take a genius to figure that out.

But in all seriousness I do not think you should be qualified to be considered as being a super-genius unless you have at the very least one of these qualifications. First have you ever created a time machine, or figured out a way to blow up the moon, or created a giant space magnet or to attract meteors and fling them into any direction or orbit you wanted, or have you figured out how to harness the power of the sun to not only power your gadgets but your very biological body effectively eliminating the food chain and eating.

I would say something along those lines would qualify as being a super genius, all the people you listed. They seem bright people, but really no different then any other couples I seen other then the fact that they work together or have a passion for the same thing. Many of such couples have existed in the history of the world, and many have had longer relationships even when there passions are not the sciences. And yet all would come apart if the same thing which brought them together were to suddenly disappear. It has been proven time and time again with 100% accuracy. It is merely logical, the things which brought them together will be the same things which will bring them apart if they were to disappear one day.

And like I said twice before, however I suppose a third time would be required. Generally in everyday occurrences and in daily life a majority of people, are not those people, they do not have the same leanings, same life upbringing, same anything really. In some instances the only they they would have in common is that there made of the same things...ie atoms, or protein ie meat.

And like I said, this seems to be more along the lines of idolizing certain people, and there lifestyles or professions. No doubt for every successful such relationship you link, one could probably link others couples both who are scientists and who have the same leanings in life, of which there relationships did not work.

As such, though I get what your trying to say. It is a meaningless gesture. In some instances it would be like taking your kid who has shown no tendencies toward sports, or athletics whatsoever, but has a leaning for books and science and putting him on the wrestling team. And then sitting back and wondering why he get's mangled...Or vice versa. I mean I have always wondered why these smart people seem to do great at the sciences. But you take them out of there environment and put them in a room full of people who want to tear there head off, and they fail miserably.

I mean sure you can do advanced calculus off the top of your head. But can you do it when you got somebody smashing your head in? Now that would be impressive. I mean anybody can do anything if they learned or studied in a room somewhere or classroom, and very few could do more then one thing to any degree, and even fewer would be able to do those things outside there particular set up environments. Making the human animal and human society quite effectively useless in many many situations.

Anyways back to the topic:

Is there some inherent overtone in our Culture, that Married Couples don't discover things unless it's bad or pro-corporate?

Well the pro-corporate world has benefited greatly by all inventions from all types of people be they married or not. But as you know that is only because there is a marriage between the corporate world and society. And also what is the purpose of discovering anything or making any new invention if you cant sell it? Now a days that is pretty much the sole goal and purpose of the sciences. Which is why we got Viagra, all kinds of way to blow stuff up, fancy new weapons and destroyer class ships, space shuttles, all kinds of new drugs, etc etc.

Yet despite all these advances, were technically still a structured feudal society.

Couples have made some great discoveries in Science. But not according to the world wide web of lies.

You can always change the channel.

reply to post by galadofwarthethird


Now that's what I'm talking about.

I can do research on the subjects covered in that post.
Some great points made.



This whole subject: "The only two super geniuses of science that I know of," were loving couples; is my answer to all the conspiracy theories. Instead of focusing on what is wrong, how many ways we have been played by elusive secretive powers, how many dead ends are on our horizons, I am advocating the antidote. I take up this subject as a weapon. One I wield in the face of Fiat Currency, Patents of Nobility, Class warfare, corruption in Politics, and posse comitatus. Just to name a few.








As to changing the channel. I am. I'm changing the channel of people's hearts,
but the web is ours. Each of us is working to take it back in our own way.
This is mine.

Mike

reply to post by mikegrouchy

A noble goal indeed.

Good luck with that. You will need it. However a little voice does whisper in the back of my mind that the way things are just may be optimal. It is something to consider. Or not! Either way we shall see.

"The world that the children made"
-The Velt
-deadmao5


The first twenty years of D&D it was a boys club.
Here in the third generation the nerds have found
out that the girls are nerds too. Collaboration is
happening.

Some people say this stuff isn't real, that it doesn't
matter. That it's make believe.

I say it is more real than what most people call real.
The tired old world is dying. The new will live for
ever. Generation after generation it gets better and
better.

The nerds won.

Mike

Fran Walsh and Peter Jackson
receiving their Oscar for writing
the screenplay for The Return of
the King, in 2004.

A true power couple of collaboration.

Mike

"It's the irony between someone getting a grant for being a genius in the popular mind and the fact that any human being is likely to have done a number of stupid things," says Dirk Obbink, a professor at the University of Oxford and 2001 fellow.

BBC NEWS: Is 'genius' a dirty word?

Who has heard the sarcastic phrase "way to go genius" used as an insult.

Mike

This is pretty much how society
likes to portray Genius, or anyone
who dares to aspire to genius.










Meanwhile people are quietly
achieving feats of genius
every day.

But do we know who they are?

Has society taught them to stay
quiet, get in the corner, and
don't be noticed?


Mike

From the 2012 ATS thread

Above all, we are told that men want sex, and women want love.

But is it true?


The Conspiracy against lovers: The real truth that they don't want you to know.

Charles and Ray eames.

Furniture designers.

Mike

We must have businesses that recognize and value
the hiring of mated pairs. The future of everyone
depends on it.

ATS: What Happens when an entire population is just sick of love/sex?

In a show called NY ER two married surgeons
discuss their dynamic relationship.

Mike

A typology of husband-wife interaction was developed from open-ended interviews with currently married artists aged 50 and over who were engaged in art and craft fairs as a second career.

Princeton . edu /Research on Married Craft Artists (1981)

Huffington Post / 8 things Power Couples do differently

1. Brainstorm together.
2. Work to improve themselves, individually and as a pair.
3. Support each others' pursuits and ambitions fully, even if that means taking turns.
4. Exercise together.
5. Get divorced when it stops working.
6. Avoid the limelight.
7. Follow their own interests
8. Compromise on scheduling.

Mike

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and thier we have the story of the "one,,,little sprite"" that could!

made it too mother ground,, and immedietly, ground was replenished with needed,..etcc

very cool!