reply to post by ZetaRediculian
Do they say anything about will? Post your sources. As long as you can make baseless claims, so can I.
What baseless claim?
You said earlier we can recall specific memories after long winded post that said nothing, so what 's the baseless claim?
We can recall specific memories at will. You say it's not at will and I asked you to show me the evidence how this is possible for the material
brain. How does the material brain know which specific memories you wish to recall? How does the material brain know the difference between these
Again, you claimed we can recall specific memories and I agree. I say the User recalls these specific memories and you say this is due to random brain
Where's the evidence that this brain activity is random? Every study points to specific neurons firing during during recall of memory which supports
I said the brain is a machine that carries out specific functions that the User activates during memory recall. Where's the evidence that this is due
to random brain activity?
There's study after study where patients recall specific memories at will. One study had subjects watch video clips than recall specific things that
occurred will watching those clips. These subjects recalled specific memories at will.
You say they recalled specific memories because of random brain activity. Where's the scientific evidence to support this nonsense?
Of course we can recall specific memories at will and this isn't in dispute. What's being debated is where does consciousness that recalls these
specific memories at will come from. Does it emerge from the material brain or is consciousness outside of the material brain.
Saying we can recall specific memories at will is scientific because scientist do this with test subjects when studying memory recall.
When you say random activity of the brain, you're on fantasy island. How does random brain activity pertain to recall of specific memories? You
don't have a clue as to what you're talking about but you're stuck in a paradigm so you spout any silly idea if you think it's support your
paradigm. Here's a study:
The patients watched a series of 5- to 10-second film clips, some from popular television shows like “Seinfeld” and others depicting
animals or landmarks like the Eiffel Tower. The researchers recorded the firing activity of about 100 neurons per person; the recorded neurons were
concentrated in and around the hippocampus, a sliver of tissue deep in the brain known to be critical to forming memories.
In each person, the researchers identified single cells that became highly active during some videos and quiet during others. More than half the
recorded cells hummed with activity in response to at least one film clip; many of them also responded weakly to others.
After briefly distracting the patients, the researchers then asked them to think about the clips for a minute and to report “what comes to mind.”
The patients remembered almost all of the clips. And when they recalled a specific one — say, a clip of Homer Simpson — the same cells that had
been active during the Homer clip reignited. In fact, the cells became active a second or two before people were conscious of the memory, which
signaled to researchers the memory to come.
What does random brain activity have to do with recalling specific memories? The neurons firing were so specific, the researches could sometimes
predict which clip they were about to recall.
So when you speak about random brain activity, you need to call Tattoo because you're heading into Fantasy Island territory.
The brain stores your experiences. It's a machine that processes information. When you recall these specific memories, the neurons that were
activated when you had the experience began to fire. Who activates these neurons? How do these neurons know which specific memory you wish to recall?
How do these neurons know the difference between these specific memories?
At the end of the day, both materialist and idealist say consciousness can recall these specific memories at will. The question is where does this
consciousness come from. If you're going to say that consciousness is an emergent property of the material brain, then you need to show how the
material brain can do things like recall specific memories at will. How does it know which specific memories you wish to recall.
If people weren't closed minded, I'm all for giving equal research dollars into conscious as an emergent property, the Quantum Mind and
consciousness a a fundamental property of the universe.
The problem is people who believe consciousness is an emergent property of the material brain think this must be the case even though there's zero
evidence to support. Just look at your post. You're so closed minded about your paradigm you can't even accept that it might not be the case.