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reply posted on 15-11-2004 @ 01:24 AM by dr
Originally posted by apw100
Originally posted by dr

They did not have hippies in Jesus day to interpet it this way. They had the terms that they knew. This term was used in the way I proved it was used.

You never proved that it was used as you claim it was. You have provided no evidence at all.

There was no concept of a hippie pacifist in Jesus day.

Of course there was. Pacifism is an ancient concept. The word "pacifist" is based on the Roman word "pac", meaning "peace". And we have already talked about the greek word for pacifist...

Jesus did not have to say he flooed the world. The Bible says He did. Jesus is God remember?.


Technically, Jesus never claimed that he was God, only that he was the son of God. It wasnt until long after his death that the concept of the Holy Trinity came into existence.

Look in Revelation for Jesus with the weapon in His hand and the blood! And who is the Judge that sends people to hell? Is this not Jesus? Gahndi wold never do that!.


The book of Revelation has nothing to do with the teachings of Jesus. They were written after his death, most likely by someone who never knew him, and were completely unrelated to him

www.religioustolerance.org...

Jesus is not a pacifist, obviously.

No, Jesus was most obviously a pacifist.

[edit on 15-11-2004 by apw100]



I provided much proof. You provided some for me too in the ISBE. The term was Greek as I and the ISBE proved. The term meant peace the Roman way, Pax Romana as you just now agreed to. I showed you a coin that showed the Roman Idea of peace through strength. Case closed!


reply posted on 23-11-2004 @ 05:12 PM by tjsrex
You guyz lol Its not hard to understand....its kind of sad how your trying to change the whole meaning of his teachings by zooming into one word tho....I know some of you guyz might get mad at the fact that Jesus didn't want us to Murder, whether in war or not.

On Earth Jesus wanted to show everyone that he loved them and that everything would be fine as long as they beleaved in his word and worked at becoming a better person. Jesus never wants to resort to violence he would rather use words. Of course he got mad when people were selling in the temple. My opinion is that he knew they would not listen to him.

www.pastornet.net.au...

"14 For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father also will forgive you; 15 but if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."

Jesus wants us to love our neighbors, that includes enemies, and he does not want us to get vengance because he will give it so that we do not have to. That is why he wants us to forgive those who do wrong to us. Because by forgiving them we can be forgiven. But if the one who does harm to us does not forgive his enemies then he will recieve the blade....Christians are meant to fight evil with good, not evil with evil, as those who do not forgive there enemies do.

and tell me. In war are not the people on both sides human? Do they not all have individual lives? Who are we to "judge" them "ALL" bad or "ALL" good?.....There is only one Judge and "we" are not him.

37 “Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven; 38 give, and it will be given to you; good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put into your lap. For the measure you give will be the measure you get back.”

and dr by taking out that word mixing it up you do realize you are trying to say that our Lord is a hypocrite right? your saying that the one who told us to turn the other cheek also said it was ok to slap his cheek....as long as "we" felt(Judged) it was the right thing to do? also tell me what War has led to peace?....peace for a short time maybe...but that is not the kind of peace that is coming
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