I don't believe the world can afford to take a step backwards as the greatest threats to life on earth in my view are mass extinction events such as
the meteor that ended the dinosaurs and to help ensure our species doesn't suffer the same fate progress and the technology it brings must be
maintained. Utopia is impossible and there will always be nations and individuals who are better off than others but there is every reason in the
world to believe developing nations like Africa in the future will make the standard of living today in even the best nation look poor and backwards.
What is your definition of taking a step backwards?
I think humanity can make steps that are positive for the Earth, but it may or may not require some lifestyle changes.
If a giant meteor came to the Earth that was large enough to cause an ELE on Earth, is there any known technology today that could stop it?
I have every reason to believe this is possible as progress requires only the political will to allow humanity to reach its potential. This is
something no single nation or even group of nations no matter how powerful or wealthy can make happen or prevent as it will happen and needs to happen
on a more individual level in the nations of the world.
The key pillars or at least good places to start are known to us and they include a stable government with proper representation of its people,
national currencies not weighed down and put under threat by debt and at the mercy of creditors, personal responsibility and a society that holds one
accountable for their own actions, religious tolerance and last but not least freedom of speech and expression as this is the driver of technology and
progress in general.
I agree with you politics are the point of weakness choking any chance for "change" to alternative ideas. There are simply too many old people in
power who refuse to let go of power and die.
On the key pillars you bring up, from my perspective the first place to start is the immediate family, then extended family, then community, and then
region-wide on up. Nowadays people know more about their electronic gadget than their grandparents. It makes it very easy for the powers on top to
manipulate a populace who is divided to a point where the family argues with each other.. and worse.
The other points you mention are for a larger more advanced society. I think currency has its good points, but barter can work fine as well, if you're
in a region where you can haggle it's usually fine to try.
I'm with ya on freedom of speech =)
When Africa achieves this and I believe they will as its impossible to destroy ideas and the human spirit and desire to better oneself it will be the
center of humanity again. The resources wealth is there to make this possible and while population growth rate is currently at unsustainable levels
the continent is far from being overpopulated. This could take a hundred years or a thousand but I would bet on future generations everywhere on earth
having better living conditions than anywhere on earth has today. Just look at how far we have come in the last thousand or even last
Yes, Africa does have resources because it is not being as exploited as the rest of the world. What I would hate to see is for the same repeated
mistakes of the West to be propagated to Africa, which would in the long term destroy anything that was 'natural' in Africa.
My biggest fears that may prevent or significantly postpone such a future come from asteroids, nuclear war or climate change whether human or natural
but I also believe we are capable of adapting to any problems we encounter. There is no doubt going to be very significant sacrifices along the way as
there always has been in the past when anything of importance has been achieved.
This last part is the most relevant to the topic and important to both the post I quoted and the topic. I don't believe you need to pull those with
wealth down to raise those without it. Communism was based on this and failed horribly because of it. Such ideals won't work on an individual level
and certainly won't work on a national level.
The idea making a small percentage and declining percentage of the population that represents the 1st world less wealthy would fix anything is
complete nonsense in my view. If you look at the numbers involved and future projections for those numbers it isn't even in the realm of possibility.
People need to look to themselves to solve their problems and in the situation someone else does offer their help be grateful for that help as the
allocation of the wealth on any endeavour should be up to the individual or representatives of those individuals who have a political mandate from
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I'm not too worried about asteroids or meteors, there's really nothing you can do about them. I think being hit by a car while crossing the street is
something much more realistic to be careful about.
As for the part on "pull those with wealth down to raise those without it" -- maybe there was some confusion. There will be haves and have nots, but
my point is that the current consumerism lifestyle going on in mostly 1st world countries that exploit the resources of other nations is an
unsustainable way for Earth to survive. If that means people living a lifestyle of a giant carbon footprint need to change their ways instead of
making places with minimal carbon footprints change theirs.
For example, the 1st world needs iron ore to make iron, to later become steel. Over time iron resources have dwindled, forcing companies to go further
into nature to mine more iron. This displaces villages and renders the land useless and the nearby water usually contaminated. Great legacy for the
Another example would be wood for paper, construction, vanillin, and whatever else. Companies clearcut forests, destroying habitats for animals and
the resources for nearby villages.
All of these activities to fund "progress" destroy the Earth. It cannot continue indefinitely because the Earth does not renew the resources at the
rate humankind's amount of demand.
Thanks for the response, I hope this isn't too off topic =b
edit on 8-10-2013 by Philippines because: formatting
8-10-2013 by Philippines because: formatting