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Collective Economic Communes known as "Kibbutz" in Israel, can save U.S. in a collapse

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posted on Oct, 5 2013 @ 10:50 AM
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Wikipedia Definition of Kibbutz:
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A kibbutz (Hebrew: קִבּוּץ / קיבוץ, lit. "gathering, clustering"; plural kibbutzim) is a collective community in Israel that was traditionally based on agriculture. The first kibbutz, established in 1909, was Degania.[1] Today, farming has been partly supplanted by other economic branches, including industrial plants and high-tech enterprises.[2] Kibbutzim began as utopian communities, a combination of socialism and Zionism. In recent decades, some kibbutzim have been privatized and changes have been made in the communal lifestyle. A member of a kibbutz is called a kibbutznik (Hebrew: קִבּוּצְנִיק).

In 2010, there were 270 kibbutzim in Israel. Their factories and farms account for 9% of Israel’s industrial output, worth US$8 billion, and 40% of its agricultural output, worth over $1.7 billion.[3] Some Kibbutzes had also developed substantial high-tech and military industries. For example, in 2010, Kibbutz Sasa, containing some 200 members, generated $850 million in annual revenue from its military-plastics industry.[4]


IF America is going to collapse, to survive the coming collapse, or at least weather the economic storms and diversify our economy against various threats, we should put into place our own versions of the Kibbutz, minus the Zionism.

It is basically a Commune, with various experts, craftsmen, farmers, blacksmiths, doctors, scientists with R&D departments, manufacturers, and so on, all living on the same acreage, working, living, raising children, education, all growing together.

If we were to establish such economic, ideological equality, and manufacturer based communes, it would help to decentralize the corporate/greed/selfish based model of free-market-inevitable-corrupt-cronism, and help to diversify this country to be able to handle whatever comes this way.




posted on Oct, 5 2013 @ 11:10 AM
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If this is working so good in Israel then why has America been giving them so much money?

And socialism will be welcomed with open arms here in the states.



posted on Oct, 5 2013 @ 11:15 AM
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The Kibbutz communes in Israel, are in a sense, independent. They don't have anything to do with the top Government officials who are in bed with the US Gov top officials, convincing them to send aid.

That "Aid" is unnecessary, and they can very well survive on their own, especially with the oil and natural gas they found right off the coast.

As far as socialism. There are both good and bad elements to socialism.



posted on Oct, 5 2013 @ 11:23 AM
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buster2010
If this is working so good in Israel then why has America been giving them so much money?

And socialism will be welcomed with open arms here in the states.


Hmmm.

Maybe there *IS* a difference between Zionism and true Judaism.



ADDED after 1 minute;

Remember that Karl Marx is considered a Zionist Banker by many scholars


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posted on Oct, 5 2013 @ 11:30 AM
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there are quite a few hippy-style communes in the U.S. that have been successfully going strong since the 60's.

its doable



posted on Oct, 5 2013 @ 11:55 AM
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I believe that when things collapse, and if (the big IF part) that comes in a true and total type of collapse above the mere economic? This will be the model that those who succeed afterward will come to follow. At least until more elaborate Government is put back together in a real working way.

Hopefully it's just a dollar collapse and not more, but it never hurts to think ahead! S/F



posted on Oct, 5 2013 @ 12:01 PM
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Ya, thats just what the US needs.....

More Israel.



posted on Oct, 5 2013 @ 01:55 PM
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Once again people intentionally MISS THE POINT!

Socialism, communism, capitalism, individualism...

They only work when everybody contributes.

When large portions of the population turn into nonproductive parasites, the whole thing falls apart.

When all production, planning and revenue is centralized, the whole thing falls apart.

It's not natural. It's not normal and it's not necessary.

We don't need one group of people in charge of everything.

Small, decentralized economy and government are the only truly long term success stories in history.

Doesn't matter what you call it.

When you put your future into the hands of others, you always get the short end of the stick.



posted on Oct, 5 2013 @ 10:34 PM
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badgerprints
Once again people intentionally MISS THE POINT!

Socialism, communism, capitalism, individualism...

They only work when everybody contributes.

When large portions of the population turn into nonproductive parasites, the whole thing falls apart.

When all production, planning and revenue is centralized, the whole thing falls apart.

It's not natural. It's not normal and it's not necessary.

We don't need one group of people in charge of everything.

Small, decentralized economy and government are the only truly long term success stories in history.

Doesn't matter what you call it.

When you put your future into the hands of others, you always get the short end of the stick.


YEs, finally some one understood the premise.

Thank you kind sir for fully understanding the intention and meaning of this post!!!! Star for you





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