Just Released: Doctors Report Thousands Of Japanese People With Nose Bleeds From Radiation

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posted on Oct, 7 2013 @ 07:18 AM
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I know that the people of Japan are scared of this topic . You know I think most of us are .And I wouldn't want to offend you in any way . I also know them as hard working and proud people. . But if governments decide that for some reason lots of people should temporarily be evacuated to other countries and solve the problem we should all contribute to that effort.

Maybe it's just emotions but I only care and speak of concern. ..




posted on Oct, 7 2013 @ 09:13 AM
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0bserver1
reply to post by Human0815
 


I know that the people of Japan are scared of this topic . You know I think most of us are .And I wouldn't want to offend you in any way . I also know them as hard working and proud people. . But if governments decide that for some reason lots of people should temporarily be evacuated to other countries and solve the problem we should all contribute to that effort.

Maybe it's just emotions but I only care and speak of concern. ..



I think the People are not scared but tired because of all the false Alarms
from the Left Side and all the lies from the Right Side
(i use the old picture here)

A official Evacuation is impossible and deadly too,
in Theory it sounds simple (Person a. until y. move to place b.)
but in the praxis it create real Problems.

From the experience of Chernobyl and Fukushima we know
that 1-2,5% of the Evacuees die in the first 5 Years,
in the case of Tokyo (45.000.000 People) this would mean
at least "650.000" because of the Evacuation itself!

Even now we have People who live in a Emergency Shelter
and this in Japan 2013, this is a real Shame.

In the big Thread i posted a few days ago how they calculate
the absolute Dosages and everyone should know how they do it,
we are not living in a Drain, we are not living in dark Corners
and we do not eat Mushroom from Minami-Soma only!

The nIRS external Dosage System:

Ps: in Reality the Humankind can't solve their Problems in a positive Way,
we still shoot, rape and kill each other and don't care about the basic need
like fresh and clean Water, since 03/11 more than 25.000 People multiplied
1.000 Times (days since 03/11) because of dirty Water,
to dream about a Evacuation of East Japan is irrational!

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posted on Oct, 7 2013 @ 10:56 AM
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But another question I know Japan is rich country , and as you see allot when nature strikes a county with devastating impact most of the time you see fund raising in many rich countries to send humanitarian aid or whatever that country needs most..

As in my country most of time when some countries are in need of supplies or humanitarian aid they gonna set up TV shows to raise money that can be used by the organizations who help the people in that particular country .

Why is it that we don't see that ?



posted on Oct, 7 2013 @ 11:13 AM
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I don't know if i understand you right.

Japan provided that much Money that more than 75% of this help
get alienated for other Prefectures!

From the International Projects like Red Cross, etc less than 5% arrived
in Japan/ Tohoku

They don't need Money but a Reason to go on and you can't buy him (the Reason)
with Money.

Edit:
The Water Example was not in Japan but in the rest of the World,
sorry to mix it up,
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posted on Oct, 7 2013 @ 11:27 AM
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Spontaneous bleeding is one of the major symptoms of radiation sickness.

Just Google it the proof is validated in so many places on the net.

Spontaneous Bleeding One of 8 Symptoms of Radiation Sickness.



Radiation sickness can cause bleeding from the nose, mouth, gums, and rectum. It can cause people to bruise easily and to bleed internally as well - and even to vomit blood.

The problems occur because radiation depletes the body of platelets, the cellular fragments in the blood that are form clots to control bleeding.



posted on Oct, 7 2013 @ 11:42 AM
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Realtruth
Spontaneous bleeding is one of the major symptoms of radiation sickness.

Just Google it the proof is validated in so many places on the net.

Spontaneous Bleeding One of 8 Symptoms of Radiation Sickness.



Radiation sickness can cause bleeding from the nose, mouth, gums, and rectum. It can cause people to bruise easily and to bleed internally as well - and even to vomit blood.

The problems occur because radiation depletes the body of platelets, the cellular fragments in the blood that are form clots to control bleeding.


So we would see a change in the Blood-Cells,
when there is no change we are able to exclude Radiation!



posted on Oct, 7 2013 @ 11:47 AM
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0bserver1


But another question I know Japan is rich country , and as you see allot when nature strikes a county with devastating impact most of the time you see fund raising in many rich countries to send humanitarian aid or whatever that country needs most..

As in my country most of time when some countries are in need of supplies or humanitarian aid they gonna set up TV shows to raise money that can be used by the organizations who help the people in that particular country .

Why is it that we don't see that ?


Because they truly don't want to admit there is a major problem and that lots of people are going to die very soon.

A world that is afflicted with greed, large ego's, and self-centeredness often show the symptoms of what is transpiring currently in Japan.

It's truly sad for the innocent people that are just trying to live their lives in peace.



posted on Oct, 7 2013 @ 11:51 AM
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Human0815

So we would see a change in the Blood-Cells,
when there is no change we are able to exclude Radiation!


A quick blood test at the local doctors, or center for blood testing would indicate the loss and/or damage to the platelets, but I would wager that even if they get tests done, that local clinics are told to suppress the true results.

If I were in Japan right now, I would leave immediately then have blood work done to see the extent of the damage already incurred, especially if I was getting random bleeding.



posted on Oct, 7 2013 @ 12:09 PM
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I am in exchange with many Expats who have Children too,
none of them showed any irregularities after they returned
to their Home-Country.

We have many international Schools, Companies and Embassies here in Tokyo
who have and provide their own Medics
and i think it is wrong to expect such a Conspiracy of Silence
of the medical Personal here in Japan!

I am not that sure about the medical Situation in F'Shima
but i would not be satisfied with a Non-Result and the Kids
continue to bleed, i would take the 90min Train Ride and
consult a Tokyo Doc for a second Opinion like many other
People do because we are free People and not chained
to our Place!



posted on Oct, 7 2013 @ 12:21 PM
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Human0815
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I am in exchange with many Expats who have Children too,
none of them showed any irregularities after they returned
to their Home-Country.

We have many international Schools, Companies and Embassies here in Tokyo
who have and provide their own Medics
and i think it is wrong to expect such a Conspiracy of Silence
of the medical Personal here in Japan!

I am not that sure about the medical Situation in F'Shima
but i would not be satisfied with a Non-Result and the Kids
continue to bleed, i would take the 90min Train Ride and
consult a Tokyo Doc for a second Opinion like many other
People do because we are free People and not chained
to our Place!


I hope this mess turns out for the best, because if any nation can perfect, or come up with a solution to a major disaster like this Japan is the one I would bet on.

The problem I see here is the fact the rest of the world is not pitching in to help out, we truly need everyone working on this mess because the fallout from this plant is going to effect the world, and not just Japan.

I wish everyone well in Japan and hope for a breakthrough solution quickly.



posted on Oct, 7 2013 @ 01:32 PM
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I hope this mess turns out for the best, because if any nation can perfect, or come up with a solution to a major disaster like this Japan is the one I would bet on.


There you took the words right out of my mouth. You would think that they are building this incredible machine right now because of their very high tech society and really smart people?

"I once mentioned " Why can't they build some kind of water treatment plants that can evaporate like large amounts of water filter out this nuclear waste and pump clean water back in the ocean ? I know it's maybe a stupid Idea but it's something I think you could really work this out with the right clever minds?
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posted on Oct, 7 2013 @ 01:49 PM
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Human0815
Very yellow this Story.

Please research how much Radiation is needed to introduce
a bleeding Nose from ionizing Radiation.


Exactly.
As mentioned earlier, radiation only causes nose-bleeds by first causing decreased platelet formation in the bone marrow. This would be obvious on a simple blood count. I do not see any documentation of "thrombocytopenia" in reports.



posted on Oct, 7 2013 @ 03:13 PM
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Human0815

No, you misunderstand me,
i am not saying that everything is fine and Okay,
in fact Fukushima is still horrible dangerous
but at the moment we are relative safe and the measured
Contamination speak against any Symptoms of Radiation Sickness!


Ok, I've never straight-up called anyone a shill on this site before. However, do you work for TEPCO? The only time I ever see you post is on Fukushima threads, and it's always, always to say something like: "No you guys. It's not that bad. Everything and everyone is fine and healthy."

Please explain how dumping hundreds of tons of radiation directly into the ocean every day for YEARS and YEARS is not a catastrophic event? Not just for Japan, but for EVERYONE?



posted on Oct, 7 2013 @ 03:23 PM
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I'm not reading this entier topic to see if this has been said yet.

But the population of Japan is 127 Million people.

127,000,000

The origianl post in this topic mentions 12,500 nosebleeds.

12,500 out of 127,000,000 people.

Granted there are more who aren't on twitter, but the point is those tweet literally mean nothing.



posted on Oct, 7 2013 @ 03:34 PM
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"12,500" out of a town of say,,15,000,,would it be worry some then?,,,,or if the nose bleed pattern followed the "storm track"?????? how about then???



posted on Oct, 7 2013 @ 03:39 PM
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Malynn

Human0815

No, you misunderstand me,
i am not saying that everything is fine and Okay,
in fact Fukushima is still horrible dangerous
but at the moment we are relative safe and the measured
Contamination speak against any Symptoms of Radiation Sickness!


Ok, I've never straight-up called anyone a shill on this site before. However, do you work for TEPCO? The only time I ever see you post is on Fukushima threads, and it's always, always to say something like: "No you guys. It's not that bad. Everything and everyone is fine and healthy."

Please explain how dumping hundreds of tons of radiation directly into the ocean every day for YEARS and YEARS is not a catastrophic event? Not just for Japan, but for EVERYONE?


a.) Tepco do not dumped contaminated Water since more than 2 Years,
there was huge Releases in the beginning because they had no other Choice
but since they build this Tanks no Water at all get "dumped" anymore.

There was a few accidentally Releases from rather low contaminated
Water in September 2013 but this was so little that only, or mostly, the People who
do not know much about Radiation are running around like a Fox in a Henhouse!

Maybe you mix up the Groundwater with the Water of the Tanks,
this is very common for the People who observe this Topic with only one Eye?

b.) I don't mind about your thoughts about me but i am not working for Tepco,
i am interested in Truth only and i am 100% In-loyal.
I find much more lies, Distraction and Disinformation in Threads based on Enenews
than in Press Releases of Tepco!

We need to observe the true Impact to act in a responsible Manner with all
of our medical possibilities, Stories like this one just steal Time and Resources!

PS: i never saw your Avatar either but this means nothing, at least for me!



posted on Oct, 7 2013 @ 03:56 PM
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Yes of course but until you have something to back up that claim it means nothing.

You're taking data from a website that everyone has access to. If you want to make the claim that those people all live in the same area than you're going to hvve to do more than tell me that X amount of people made a tweet.



posted on Oct, 7 2013 @ 04:00 PM
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"Yes of course but until you have something to back up that claim it means nothing. "

your right,,but did anyone decide too check??? cause im not. thats for sure.
never twittered aint going too,, but im fairly certain,, someone does,,have Data.geographical/time,,,Data.
weather reports,,prevailing wind etc,,, but i aint.



posted on Oct, 7 2013 @ 05:04 PM
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WTH! When is the Japanese government going to start telling their people the truth?!?

As soon as the American government starts telling their people the truth...NEVER!
Interesting post S & F, thanks!
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posted on Oct, 7 2013 @ 05:19 PM
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"What this amounts to is human nature and the built in disadvantage of only reacting to something you can actually see, smell, or touch and using these senses to reconcile anything as a threat, radiation is in that category of harm.

Sort of like faith, other dimensions etc, people just find it too hard to believe or take seriously unless they see the immediate effects, like putting your hand in fire to experience pain and then realizing that the fire is dangerous. "

Oh man did you hit it on the nail with your above post.

Think asbestos, lead paint, DDT, agent orange....and so on.
Nothing immediately noticeable, but exposure to the above is an invisible death sentence in heavy doses and even small ones in some cases.


Star for your post.
Regards, Iwinder





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