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posted on Oct, 4 2013 @ 09:53 AM
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Wow, I think you may have become more ignorant than the last time we spoke. (I didn't think that was possible)

Plse it would be a big mistake to confuse ignorance with difference of opinion.
The sad geriatric fools in this section never change not since i was here over a year ago! Still having the same pointless denials when they know full well US truthers are hard core mason bashers so its like winning the special Olympics bothering to debate them yet still you debate trust me mate the laugh is on you & your crusty bros! You look a hundred times more stupid than i could ever wish for




posted on Oct, 4 2013 @ 10:01 AM
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We know it was an ad hominem as from your Original Post you felt compelled to resort to such in an attempt to make your mostly incoherrent point.

Mate you have very elevated opinion of yourself the thread is not all about you and never was you selfish git i never asked you to contribute or should i say hijack it for yourself gratification, mate ad hominem is your middle name i think!!




All you want is bias confirmation.

Again, who cares?

Indeed who cares about good sir who is respectable in his own mind, thinks he is special because he posts on ats against hard core mason bashers, congrats for gold in the Special Olympics old boy do you feel proud!
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posted on Oct, 4 2013 @ 10:31 AM
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That socialism, communism, capitalism, and even some less wanted political ideologies like nationalism and fascism, are all not working like a charm as one single -ism for any society.
Doesn't mean they all have to get replaced.

Your preaching to some one who already agrees with you!
How have your attempts been to spread similar sentiment to our majority US friends? Are you european maybe german? I have more in common with you than i do with americans and their selfish yiddish based A Randite fantasies! They are so stupid they shut down their own gov how stupid can a nation get!
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posted on Oct, 4 2013 @ 10:35 AM
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Theprimordialocker
...i never asked you to contribute...


Newsflash. I do not need you permission to post so deal with it. When this place turns into your private discussion board then you can decide who does or does not post here.


Indeed who cares about good sir who is respectable in his own mind, thinks he is special because he posts on ats against hard core mason bashers, congrats for gold in the Special Olympics old boy do you feel proud!


I must have missed where this was a Mason-bashing thread.

You seem to want to try and insult anyone, regardless of what private group they may belong to, as long as they do not share your narrow socio-economic viewpoint and the Original Post was, obviously, merely a vehicle for you to make antagonisitc and irrelevant comments to anyone that differs from said viewpoint.

That modus operandi is a typical one on this, and other sites, where people want to make smug and self-serving judgements based on what they think is the optimal position or view to have on a particular subject.



posted on Oct, 4 2013 @ 10:40 AM
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That modus operandi is a typical one on this, and other sites, where people want to make smug and self-serving judgements based on what they think is the optimal position or view to have on a particular subject.

Talking about yourself again!!



posted on Oct, 4 2013 @ 10:42 AM
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Theprimordialocker
Talking about yourself again!!


I think you will be hard pressed to show where I made mention of my opinion other than that of you being purposefully insulting and that it is an oft-used tactic for those seeking bias confirmation.



posted on Oct, 4 2013 @ 11:29 AM
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Knock off the name calling and insults, or you will be reading only.
This is the Secret Societies Forum, not, some American political mud pit where name calling seems to be the only consistent.

It stops now.

Sauron
Super-Moderator.






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posted on Oct, 4 2013 @ 12:04 PM
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Well, addressing your title and subject of the thread, I am an American and I am not a fan of the ACA, but I don't consider them to be Illuminati.

I am guilty of calling some in the political arena "socialist", but I don't believe that everyone on the other side of the political aisle is one. Words like "socialist" and "communist" are fairly taboo in America due thanks to McCarthyism, the Red Scares, and propaganda during much of the 20th century.

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Jesse Ventura is just another Alex Jones and paranoia mouthpiece. His opinions are not indicative of a majority of people.

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America hasn't been a pure capitalist/free market system for a long time -- at least in the sense we've had relative strong free market with some restraints on corporations (but regulations is not equal to Socialism), but we've also had our government put in place political programs that nationalize a great deal and take us closer to a socialist system in some fronts. We've allowed Progressivism (not all of it bad) to go unchecked which gave rise to the lovely 4th branch of government...thank you Wilson
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You sound like you're looking less for a discussion and more for a fight so you can just call people libotards.


Theprimordialocker
On the flip side you might be retarded fat old dementia patient in a nursing home reminiscing about the heyday of the craft since there is hardly is any craft worth #ting on any more.

You are one who thinks quantity is quality. Has Freemasonry shrank? Sure, but that was going to happen no matter thanks to the 60's and 70's when the kids of that generation rebelled against anything related to their parent's generation. Freemasonry in the early to mid 20th century can be compared to the Housing Bubble that burst in 2008/2009. Freemasonry now is starting to regrow in a sense of strong, active members. As the baby boomers die out large chunks of Freemasonry's population will disappear, but many of those numbers are not active members anymore. I'd rather be a part of a group with a strong central core of active members rather than a large group with no one showing up.

FYI, I'm only 29 so I'm not old.



posted on Oct, 4 2013 @ 06:47 PM
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posted on Oct, 4 2013 @ 08:17 PM
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That was a very good cartoon it made me think of some Star Next Generation Episodes I seen!

Star Trek Next Generation "The Neutral Zone"

Examples of Communism in star trek
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzqW0YaN2ho
www.youtube.com...


Star Trek TNG The crew facing the mindset of the 21st century (en
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QATuxkGWVs
www.youtube.com...


OMG, no TV!!!

Communism, Socialism are Ideas and dreams for people of the future!

Humans have to much hoarding in them still, like desert hamsters!



Me
Greed is a Seed, that grows in the heart, then tears it apart...

If Greed is the seed, then money is the root, the root of what?
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posted on Oct, 4 2013 @ 09:24 PM
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posted on Oct, 4 2013 @ 09:30 PM
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No, the elites use socialism to consolidate the economy. It gets rid of the competitors. This is best route to monopolize the wealth. The money is spread among the lower class in socialism, but at the top is where are the wealth resides. U ever wonder why socialist dictators are billionaires?? It's because they get to monopolize everything.



posted on Oct, 4 2013 @ 09:44 PM
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The money is spread among the lower class in socialism, but at the top is where are the wealth resides.

So money is spread among the lower class in the US how is it there are so many then in need of food stamps and most importantly out of work. Mate dont cover failures they too gaping to ignore the rest of the world has noted them thats the important thing.

As for socialists dictators where are they ? Can you give me an example very interested since i dont see any. Do you consider Putin to be socialist dictator hardly the guys a billoniare yet the yank estab still think of him as such. Did you consider ex Aussie pm Gough Whitlam a socialist dictator, he must have been according to right wing yanks since the cia toppled him for zero reason just the military coups they organised in various places all down to ideology!



posted on Oct, 4 2013 @ 10:37 PM
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You get censored when you break the rules. No one is exempt from this so don't act like some kind of martyr.



posted on Oct, 4 2013 @ 10:48 PM
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Saurus

Lingweenie

I think it's funny how people in the U.S.A. are pretty much scared of communism or socialism. Just like we're pumped full of fear about countless other things.

Socialism or communism isn't evil, or wrong. And Capitalism isn't either. But I think most sane people can agree that these three systems have shown not to work at 100%.



What do you mean?

The Netherlands is a fully functional Socialist country, and it works just fine.

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Many countries have been under the control of socialism. Most ended up collapsing.

Sure it may be working just fine now, but can you say that without a doubt this system can be sustained?



posted on Oct, 4 2013 @ 11:08 PM
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amfirst1
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No, the elites use socialism to consolidate the economy. It gets rid of the competitors. This is best route to monopolize the wealth. The money is spread among the lower class in socialism, but at the top is where are the wealth resides. U ever wonder why socialist dictators are billionaires?? It's because they get to monopolize everything.


I'd have to disagree. Socialism aims to make everything owned by the people, for the people. Everyone is meant to own a equal portion of everything. If everyone owns a portion of everything, then one person is not supposed to take more than another. Sure people may come along try to do this, but that is not what a real socialist society is.



posted on Oct, 4 2013 @ 11:14 PM
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Communism is the goal - a workers paradise in which everyone is equal socially and finacially and choose to go to Communism gleefuly but in order to get to that goal and here is the hard part - you need to install Socialism first!

Which of course means the State taking everything you own - property, money, family, etc... by force!
& when you have nothing - than they can work on that Communist Dream!
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posted on Oct, 4 2013 @ 11:21 PM
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Communism can work in a robot labored economy, where a "free trade" model will create global monopolies!!

All future stuff, they did it too soon!!



posted on Oct, 4 2013 @ 11:25 PM
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AbleEndangered
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Communism can work in a robot labored economy, where a "free trade" model will create global monopolies!!

All future stuff, they did it too soon!!



Amen Comrade - they Jumped the Shark but don't worry they will scurry off into the dark corners & come back. They always do!



posted on Oct, 4 2013 @ 11:57 PM
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Ron Paul does the brotherly Mason thing!

henrymakow.com...

All talk of socialism this is not so much about advocating for any ism rather than attempting to point out that americans are paranoid of that word. Infact i would rather make this thread a common sense thread about well what i posted it for in the first place the stupidity tying illuminti constantly to socialism which ic in so many in truther libotard places. So let this thread be on Ron and Rand maybe and less about socialists.





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