Originally posted by blablablaxyz
The truth is can anyone name a place on Earth where mulims and - INSERT RELIGION - live side by side in a harmonious, integrated manner.
Goverment controled part of Bosnia (muslim majority). All churches still stand, people are not discriminated because of their religion, they can
practice their belief freely. On the other side, the orthodox christian (serbian) part of Bosnia: not a single mosque is left, all records of
existence of muslims have been erased, cemetaries destroyed, 200,000 people killed. Ethnic cleansing it is called, and Milosevic is doing his time for
In Egypt there is a constitutional ban on religion based parties, there are over 2 million coptic christians living there, side by side with Muslims.
The problems they ALL have are caused by corrupted goverment and slow implementation of economic reforms.
But that is beside the point of this thread.
I have to say that I am very surprized at how much the situation in Netherlands has escalated. It seems that the tensions in some parts were much
higher then it was presented in public.
It all depends now on how will the Dutch Goverment react to this.
The fact stands, that despite the violent events of the past few weeks, the majority of both the Dutch people and Muslims are peaceful tolerant
people. If it wasn't that way, the Netherlands wouldn't be a symbol of tolerance.
The problem is the violent minority. For whatever reasons, they've been allowed to preach their hatred without any serious consequences. It might
have been political corectness gone wrong, ignorance, maybe nobody believed that it would ever reach this level, who knows.
When you have freedom of speech it is difficult to determine when exactly that freedom turns into racial hatred, fundamentalism or hitler-like
IMO, one of the biggest weaknesses of all EU countries is that they have established theoreticaly where this line is, but have actually done very
little against those who cross it. That has to change. Action is required, not just talk.
On one side, the Dutch people are threatened by violent muslim minority who is inciting hatred, and on the other side, muslims are threatened and
attacked by dutch right-wing nuts and neo-nazis with their own version of "pure" society. I am sure that moderate people on both sides want to see
more action against these extremists.
However, I very much disagree with far right wing parties and their solutions, which usualy consist of "lets deport all foreigners to their home
countries" mentality. That is not a solution either. You can't punish millions of people who have done nothing wrong just beacuse a few people who
happen to be of the same religion decide to kill somebody. That is called "collective guilt", we had that before in Europe, Hitler blamed ALL jews
for whatever problems he had. We all know what happened and we most certainly do not want that again.